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Author:  LOTRforever21 [ October 7th, 2006, 3:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Do you think PJ got too creative license happy...?

...As the movies went on?
After reading a topic on best movie, I really wanted to hear everyone's opinion on this one.
DO NOT GET ME WRONG. I AM NOT RAGGING ON PJ. I LOVE HIM AND HIS WORK ON LOTR AND WOULD NOT CHANGE IT. THIS IS JUST HOW I FEEL AND THE CONCLUSION I CAME TO LONG AFTER THE ROTK EE EDITION.

In that thread I said,
"FotR Extended Edition. No Contest.
Truest to the books and was the most Tolkien-feeling of the all three. They got more and more PJified as they went on. Nothing wrong with that, but I didn't LOVE the others like I did and do Fellowship."

For me it feels like the movies went,
FotR- 90% Tolkien Feeling/ 10% PJ
TTT- 50% Tolkien Feeling/ 50% PJ
RotK- 10% Tolkien Feeling/ 90% Tolkien

I think that towards the end PJ got way too carried away with the "this is my version of LOTR now." I readily accept the Elves at Helm's Deep now because I love Haldir and it was just too kool. Sometimes I even forget that PJ made this part up. But, by RotK it just got ridiculous with Arwen/Anduril/and all the cutting up of the story. I haven't watched them all in a long time because I didn't want them to get tired, but I know there are tons more.

I think FotR deserved Best Pic and Ian Best Supporting for Gandalf the Grey. Not that I didn't root for RotK. It just felt, I dunno, too easy. Like it was too predictable.

I mean am I crazy or does anyone feel me on this one?

Author:  Dumanyu [ October 7th, 2006, 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Do you think PJ got too creative license happy...?

I think FotR deserved Best Pic and Ian Best Supporting for Gandalf the Grey. Not that I didn't root for RotK. It just felt, I dunno, too easy. Like it was too predictable.

Ther was some dramatic liscense taken. I thought elves at Helm's Deep was cool!!
Yes, the Arwen / Ring connection was a bit over done.

And Yes, Aragorn should have carried Anduril from the beginning of the quest.

As for the Oscar's (Academy Awards) it was a given, and deservedly so, that ROTK would get what it got, because PJ had been snubbed as Best Director for the first 2 films, and I think the academy just said he deserves it, but not for each film, so award him for the whole collective project.

Author:  The Nightingale [ October 7th, 2006, 11:45 pm ]
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If I may.... My thoughts on what went wrong in the movies:
1. Too much Arwen/Aragorn kissing stuff. They didn't need quite all of that.
2. They shouldn't have had Arwen saving Frodo. I think they should have kept it so Gil-whatever (sorry, I just can't remember the rest of his name) took him to Rivendell.
3. The whole thing when Elrond delivered Anduril.
4. The Elves at Helm's Deep. (not that I mind more Haldir, but whatever).
5. Not that they could help it, but I would have loved to see Tom Bombadil.
6. I also would have liked to see Eowyn and Faramir walking in the garden.
7. I have to re-read a bit of the book, but I'm not sure exactly how much goes on between Eowyn and Aragorn.
yeah.

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