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Post subject:  Posted: January 2nd, 2007, 1:55 pm |
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The Nightingale wrote: Gandalf died to save the rest of them.
yep. he died, and then he came to life again!  eucatastrohpy! _________________  I revisited AU on Jan 14th after an almost 10-year break! The nostalgia..!
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Post subject: Posted: January 2nd, 2007, 4:57 pm |
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yeah.. I sooo like the idea of eucatastrophe. Another thing LotR taught me 
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Post subject: Posted: January 4th, 2007, 12:10 pm |
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I read an article on this new movie and it said something like this: Tolkien was the father of 'hopeful fantasy'. which means, that whilst reading/watching LotR you don't have to be frightened because you know already that there'll be a happy ending. no way. and the new movie is supposedly 'something different'.  very annoying. _________________ I revisited AU on Jan 14th after an almost 10-year break! The nostalgia..!
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Post subject: Posted: January 4th, 2007, 1:40 pm |
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What?? Where did you read that?? That sounds veeerry annoying!! I just can't believe someone could write so much ****
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Post subject: Posted: January 5th, 2007, 8:26 am |
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It was in a newspaper. how can they say some movie-script-writer's better than Tolkien who's written the best books on Earth?  it's NOT anything near 'hopeful'. if something is, movies are. _________________ I revisited AU on Jan 14th after an almost 10-year break! The nostalgia..!
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Post subject: Posted: January 5th, 2007, 12:50 pm |
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exactly, I can only agree. That person must have no idea about LotR or Tolkien.
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Post subject: Posted: January 6th, 2007, 12:51 am |
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Inwenyárë wrote: The Nightingale wrote: Gandalf died to save the rest of them.
yep. he died, and then he came to life again! eucatastrohpy! Not a eucatastrophy.
An allegory. Tolkien was a Christian. Gandalf's death to save the fellowship is like Jesus's death to save the world.
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Post subject: Posted: January 9th, 2007, 12:29 pm |
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I personally think Gandalf's death was a catastrophe, so when he came back it was an eucatastrophe _________________ I revisited AU on Jan 14th after an almost 10-year break! The nostalgia..!
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Post subject: Posted: January 9th, 2007, 1:13 pm |
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Inwenyárë wrote: I read an article on this new movie and it said something like this: Tolkien was the father of 'hopeful fantasy'. which means, that whilst reading/watching LotR you don't have to be frightened because you know already that there'll be a happy ending. no way. and the new movie is supposedly 'something different'. very annoying.  Like I said on the first post on this thread, one of the best things about LotR to me is that they keep fighting, even when there is no hope. You don't necessarily know it's going to have a happy ending, and it really doesn't. I mean, Frodo pretty much gave up his life to save Middle Earth... that's happy? And Galadriel, Gandalf, and Elrond all left, and you know Arwen's going to die... the ending is satisfying and bitter-sweet.
Sometimes people can be so idiotic about LotR. It drives me MAD.  _________________ <center> -In Christ alone my hope is found, He is my light, my strength, my song-
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Post subject: Posted: January 9th, 2007, 1:15 pm |
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exactly. I never considered the LotR ending as being a happy ending. It's got a bittersweet mood like you've said.
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Post subject: Posted: January 11th, 2007, 10:19 am |
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I especially lamented for Arwen, Elrond (for parting with his daughter) and Frodo. :/ and the end of an era. *mutters* of all stupid people those are the worst.
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