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Post subject: Did PJ do a good job depicting the Elves?  Posted: February 15th, 2006, 3:08 am |
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What do you think? I love everything about the movie elves, but they don't seem to do justice to the elves from the books - for the Prologue Elves, they have the wrong weapons. They're supposed to have more longsword-type swords, as opposed to the curved ones, because they're Noldorin, and there was only ever one Noldorin Elf who had a curved sword, no matter what people say about Hadhafang having belonged to Idril - that's just something made up in the movie.
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Post subject: Posted: February 15th, 2006, 8:37 am |
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Hmm...I didn't remember that about the swords.
I thought they did well. The costuming was fabulous. They worked so hard to stay within certain kinds of textiles, mainly silks, and the clothes had such a natural feel to them. The landscapes were beautiful, too, though not always how I pictured them.
I thought they did as good a job as anyone could have, really.
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Post subject: Posted: February 15th, 2006, 8:11 pm |
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I thought he did a good job of rounding everything off... i never knew that about elves...  _________________ <BR>
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Post subject: Posted: February 19th, 2006, 4:21 pm |
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i think PJ did really, really well as i think the Elves had got to be the hardest to create as tolkien never exactly gave them detailed descriptions so to create what he did with the looks, costumes, weapons etc. he did a fantastic job
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Post subject: Posted: February 20th, 2006, 2:07 pm |
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i think he did a very good job.
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Post subject: Posted: February 21st, 2006, 9:35 am |
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I thought he did well, but there were too many blonde elves IMHO. Silvian elves weren't all blonde, nor were Grey Elves. (in fact, only two Grey Elves I know of have blonde hair, Legolas and his Father!)
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Post subject: Posted: February 21st, 2006, 6:09 pm |
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Gandalf the Maiar wrote: (in fact, only two Grey Elves I know of have blonde hair, Legolas and his Father!)
You mean, Tolkien actually wrote that Legolas had blonde hair? Is that in LotR? How did I miss that? _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: February 21st, 2006, 6:47 pm |
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Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean it like that... Most artist just draw Legolas blonde. Actually his hair color is never confrimed... But I always picture him like that. (but not Orlando Bloom, he scares me as a blonde)
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Post subject: Posted: February 22nd, 2006, 10:53 am |
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haha! he scares me too!  _________________ <BR>
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Post subject: Posted: February 22nd, 2006, 5:12 pm |
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I though his elves were awesome! for lack of a better word....The only thing is the were so prim and proper....nothing wrong with that, but take Legolas for example. He really got into things in the book and kind of stood around in the movies...
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Post subject: Posted: February 23rd, 2006, 3:54 pm |
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true... hm...
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Post subject: Posted: February 25th, 2006, 12:35 pm |
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I'm actually gonna semi-disagree with you folkses. 
PJ got the elves half right. Yup. Split straight down the middle.
Sadness, superb. Looks... almost always amazing. (The blond freak who stands next to Elrond at Aragorn's coronation... Aarugh!!! Run AWAY!!  ) Costumes... to die for. 
But there's one major aspect of elvishness that PJ got desperately wrong.
*gasp*
Yes. Major.
It was that there are no happy elves.  I mean, look around. They're always standing around, looking either like absolute stoics, or they're pouting because Sauron's being so mean and they have to leave. Pooh pooh!  http://arwen-undomiel.com/images/elves/Elves_etrange.jpg
Get this line of Sam's in FotR:
Quote: And Elves, sir! Elves here, and elves there! Some like kings, terrible and splendid; and some as merry as children. Or, take this passage from the Hobbit (Longish, I know, but I hope you'll get the point)  Quote: So they [the Elves] laughed and sang in the trees; and pretty fair nonsense I daresay you think it. Not that they would care; they would only laugh all the more if you told them so. They were elves of course. Soon Bilbo caught glimpses of them as the darkness deepened. He loved elves, though he seldom met them; but he was a little afraid of them too. Dwarves don't get on well with them. Even decent enough dwarves like Thorin and his friends think them foolish (which is a very foolish thing to think), or get annoyed with them. For some elves tease them and laugh at them, and most of all at their beards.
"Well, well!" said a voice. "Just look! Bilbo the hobbit on a pony, my dear! Isn't it delicious!"
"Most astonishing wonderful!"
Then off they went into another song as ridiculous as the one I have written down in full.
Ooohhhh, don'tcha just love Tolkien? 
I'll admit, it would be very hard to bring that across onscreen. Probably because the majority of moviegoers nowadays are very Dwarf-like.
Quite a shame, really. 
Oh well. At least WE know what the elves are really like.  _________________
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Post subject: Posted: February 25th, 2006, 4:05 pm |
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Arsarniel wrote:
It was that there are no happy elves.
not true, i've seen footage of happy/laughing elves
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Post subject: Posted: February 25th, 2006, 6:22 pm |
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I thought he did a good job depicting the grace and beauty of the elves.
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Post subject: Posted: March 3rd, 2006, 7:45 pm |
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Aranel_En_Mirkwood wrote: Arsarniel wrote:
It was that there are no happy elves.
not true, i've seen footage of happy/laughing elves Really? Where did you see that? I missed it.
But, it seems to me that Tolkien described the Elves in LotR differently than in Hobbit.
I read Hobbit after LotR and I was a bit surprised by the description of their singing and laughing, their silly songs and making fun of things.
In LotR they seemed more ... above things, distant, etherial, mystical, and yes, sad, as if their immortality was making them unhappy in a land that is fading. I don't know, maybe that was just my impression. That's why I didn't expect to see any happy Elves, so I never noticed their absence. _________________
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Post subject: Posted: March 5th, 2006, 3:59 pm |
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Merenwen wrote: Aranel_En_Mirkwood wrote: Arsarniel wrote:
It was that there are no happy elves.
not true, i've seen footage of happy/laughing elves Really? Where did you see that? I missed it. deleated scenes i think. i found footage of a couple of girl elves running/laughing in a place i think is lorien on the net.
and an easter egg on fotr ee has a shot of arwen laughing and looking very happy. (and gladriel never looks that sad/gloomy to me)
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