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Author: | Synariel [ April 20th, 2007, 12:32 pm ] |
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Hi. I was wondering, if anyone knows the translation for the elvish writing on the title page of Ruth S. Noel's "The Languages of Tolkien's Middle Earth" book. Though I know a bit of elvish (meaning how to write with the letters), enough to write understandable sentances, enough to read what is on the Moria door, enough to read what is on the ring-I for some reason cannot decipher what is on this title page. If anyone has seen this writing who can help me, I would appreciate it. (I would also appreciate a detailed description of the writing translation if you can give me one, so that I can understand why it says what it does, and how.) If not, and you need to see a picture, I will post it later. I cannot post it quite at the moment. Thank you very much. ![]() |
Author: | Nulómiel [ April 20th, 2007, 10:17 pm ] |
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I'd be most interested to see a picture of the inscription ![]() |
Author: | Tyrhael [ April 21st, 2007, 9:23 am ] |
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The tengwar read Parmaquettar Endoreva — Bookwords belonging to Middle-earth. As for the runes, they're the type used in The Hobbit, and not the Cirth — I'm a bit rusty with them. As for the book itself as a resource, I wouldn't recommend it. It's outdated and inaccurate. |
Author: | Synariel [ April 23rd, 2007, 2:11 pm ] |
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Thank you both for helping. ![]() I was confused by the flourishy parts of the letters, I know often times, or regularly, as it is supposed to be, they are "S"es. That was what made it hard to read. I guess here they were only meant to be decor. ![]() I see how it says that Tyrhael, except for the "que" part in "parmaquettar." I see the "q" and the "u" but no "e." I have another question, Why is the book said to be outdated and inacurate? I have heard that before. Who found out that it was? |
Author: | Erythen [ April 23rd, 2007, 4:26 pm ] |
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At the time the book was published (1980) there was a lot less information about the Languages of Middle Earth (I haft to mention that this was before I was even born ![]() |
Author: | Tyrhael [ April 25th, 2007, 11:15 am ] |
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Erythen is right about it being inaccurate because it's outdated — so much information has been published since it came out. Anyway, the qu (kw) is one tengwa - #4 quesse. The E is one as well - yanta. There is no "U" — it's contained within the tengwa "qu". Thus a word like "quesse" would be written "qu-e-ss-e", whereas "cuile" would be "c-u-i-l-e". The difference between qu- and cu-... |
Author: | Lady of Taniquetil [ August 15th, 2007, 8:59 pm ] |
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really? the orange-y book is outdated? adn i took a whole lot of time looking for one. well i got it. can you tell me an acurate book on learning elvish? |
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