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Author:  karategrrl [ April 13th, 2007, 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Help...Tattoo thoughts
I'm getting a tattoo on the back of my neck with the Quote "Dark my dreams have been of late...The hard part is how do I want it translated and how do I want it written....Any translations and/or ideas will be most appriciated and welcome...Thanks!!! KG
Author:  Erythen [ April 13th, 2007, 6:02 pm ]
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Once you get the phrase your looking for translated (be it Quenya or Sindarin) check out this section of the COE forum http://www.councilofelrond.com/modules. ... &tid=19919 . Uialdil_i_degilbor does an excellent job helping with the Tengwar. If you prefer the English sentance but in Elvish Script he can help with that too. Hope this helps :-D!
Author:  Lady Dovasary [ May 11th, 2007, 7:25 pm ]
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Could someone translate 'Dream Child' into Sindarin and Quenya for me?
Author:  Lady Dovasary [ May 13th, 2007, 11:05 am ]
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Anyone there???
Author:  Eä [ May 13th, 2007, 3:50 pm ]
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Well, dream is ôl in Sindarin and olor or olórë in Quenya and child could be translated into -ion son of or -iel daughter of....
That's all I can do for you... but I'm sure if you have a bit of patience the language scholars will stop by here soon. :angel:
Author:  Tyrhael [ May 14th, 2007, 5:23 pm ]
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"Child" is _hên_ in Sindarin and -hin or _hína_ in Quenya, so we'd get *Olchen or *Olorin, though the latter is too close to Olórin.
Author:  Miriel [ May 30th, 2007, 11:20 am ]
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:annoyed:

Is it true that there is no elvish (sindarin OR quenya) for the word forever, or always? I can not find it anywhere.
Author:  Tyrhael [ May 30th, 2007, 11:48 am ]
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In Quenya we have _tennoio_ "forever" or _illumë_ "always" (or the short-lived _vora, vorë_, whereas in Sindarin the reconstruction *_na-uir_ might be found.
Author:  Miriel [ May 30th, 2007, 12:10 pm ]
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Um...sorry but...I didn't understand that?

So in sindarin it is nau-uir? What is the asterisk for? Does it have to have a dash like that?

Sorry if I'm being annoying... :(
Author:  Tyrhael [ May 31st, 2007, 12:22 pm ]
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The asterisk marks it as a reconstruction not actually found in any of Tolkien's published papers, but formed based on attested words and knowledge of compounds. As for the hyphen, _na_ is found sometimes with (na-chaered) and sometimes without (na vedui), so you could say either "na uir" or "na-uir".
Author:  Miriel [ June 2nd, 2007, 9:52 pm ]
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Okay...so how do you pronounce na-uir?

Oh, and also how is na-chaered pronounced? I have always wondered. This is last question! =)
Author:  Tyrhael [ September 21st, 2007, 3:59 pm ]
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Sorry for the very late response! You can find a good site for Sindarin pronunciation here.
Author:  Eruraina [ December 9th, 2007, 5:10 pm ]
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Wow... first response since September... lol!

Okay, so I was bored and was wondering what the translation of "silver rose" would be. I looked at a few elvish dictionaries and wasn't sure.

I could never find the word "rose". Like the flower. And was wondering if it would have to be translated as "silver red flower" and using the AU dictionary it would be "Celeb caran----" and they don't have flower, plus, I think the AU dictionary is a mix of Sindarian and Quenya, but I'm not sure.

but the translation "silver red flower" is almost confusing...

So, in either Quenya or Sindarian or both, could someone translate "silver rose" for me? Since I had no luck doing it myself?
Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ December 9th, 2007, 5:40 pm ]
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If you want to do it yourself -> http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/sindar

And if you want to download a program that translates single words for you, Dragon Flame is very good... pretty much a non-internet version of Hisweloke :P -> http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/sindar/df20.html
Author:  Eruraina [ December 9th, 2007, 5:48 pm ]
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Ah! I think I'd have fun looking for myself, I've always been intrigued by elvish... but, I'd have to download it? Grr... I'd have to beg my dad to allow me to download anything onto my computer...
Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ December 9th, 2007, 5:51 pm ]
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No no, you can use Hisweloke as well... you don't have to download that :P
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