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Author:  Dark, Queen of Angmar [ April 21st, 2007, 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:  LotR = Sci-Fi?

Fantasy is described as never being possible, ever. But on the other hand, Sci-fi is described as being a possibility or a chance that it might happen. Now, LotR was written partly as a history.

Do you think that we should start considering LotR as being Sci-fi, rather than Fantasy. Because LotR could of/did happen.... what do you guys think?

Author:  Dark, Queen of Angmar [ April 21st, 2007, 4:28 pm ]
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great quote! Thanks Ellie!

Author:  Ánië Súrion [ April 21st, 2007, 8:17 pm ]
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I understand what you're saying, but for some funny reason I've got it in my head that Sci-Fi has to do with spaceships and aliens, even though I know that's not necessarily true. :P You make a good point though.

Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ April 21st, 2007, 9:09 pm ]
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Ánië Súrion wrote:
I understand what you're saying, but for some funny reason I've got it in my head that Sci-Fi has to do with spaceships and aliens, even though I know that's not necessarily true. :P You make a good point though.

I second that :P



I always saw LotR as some sort of historical-medieval tale. Which I think it is :)

Author:  Slickman_G [ April 22nd, 2007, 7:39 am ]
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Iv seen many things in Sci-Fi films which are just as impossible than some things on LOTR, so I suppose it would fall under either category.

Author:  Fíriel_18190 [ April 22nd, 2007, 8:52 am ]
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Haldir o Lórien wrote:
Ánië Súrion wrote:
I understand what you're saying, but for some funny reason I've got it in my head that Sci-Fi has to do with spaceships and aliens, even though I know that's not necessarily true. :P You make a good point though.

I second that :P



I always saw LotR as some sort of historical-medieval tale. Which I think it is :)

I agree with you Haldir. That's exactly the way I think as well.

Author:  Renji's Howl [ April 22nd, 2007, 3:01 pm ]
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I don't put LotR under fantasy, but I really don't think that is Si-Fi. Si-Fi is generaly what could happen in the future.

Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ April 22nd, 2007, 3:06 pm ]
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Well I don't see how LotR has anything to do with Science. Fiction, definitely.. but Science-fiction? So yes, Sci-fi is pretty much lasers and spaceships.

Author:  Firaeya Laisidhiel [ April 22nd, 2007, 9:08 pm ]
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Well, the four elements of Sci Fi are:
1./ Human nature or society is depicted
2./ A seemingly scientific but NOT scientific idea is expressed and plays a strong part in the story
3./ Presents the strange and unusual
4./ Tells a good story/has an identifiable plotline
So I don't think LotR is Sci Fi. They say "magic" is a strong element of fantasy, and that makes LotR fantasy.

Author:  Risestel [ April 22nd, 2007, 10:12 pm ]
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^ I agree with you. that makes sense.

Author:  Ánië Súrion [ April 23rd, 2007, 1:01 am ]
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I've always just thought of it as fantasy/mythology. That's what Tolkien wanted it to be, after all.

Author:  The Nightingale [ April 23rd, 2007, 5:59 am ]
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^ Aye.

And, to me, anways, sci-fi always seems futuristic. Tolkien's works seem more of past, rather than future.

Author:  Fíriel_18190 [ April 23rd, 2007, 12:01 pm ]
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^
yeah exactly. Science fiction in my opinion is supposed to be in the future and LotR is in the past.

Author:  Dark, Queen of Angmar [ April 23rd, 2007, 5:38 pm ]
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yeah, definately LotR is/was in the past, and Sci-Fi is generally in the future, so i see where you guys are coming from.

Author:  Aerandir [ April 25th, 2007, 4:01 pm ]
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Firaeya Laisidhiel wrote:
Well, the four elements of Sci Fi are:
1./ Human nature or society is depicted
2./ A seemingly scientific but NOT scientific idea is expressed and plays a strong part in the story
3./ Presents the strange and unusual
4./ Tells a good story/has an identifiable plotline
So I don't think LotR is Sci Fi. They say "magic" is a strong element of fantasy, and that makes LotR fantasy.


According to what are you saying that those are the four elements of Sci-Fi? I've never heard them stated clearly before.

Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ April 25th, 2007, 9:56 pm ]
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Yeah... me neither. I thought "Science-Fiction" was pretty self-explanatory.

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