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 Post subject: Why doesn't Bilbo have visions when he has the ring on?
PostPosted: September 28th, 2006, 7:12 pm 
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Why does Bilbo not have the visons (or what ever happens to Frodo) when he has the ring on, when frodo does?

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PostPosted: September 28th, 2006, 7:27 pm 
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what do you mean have visions?? he does not see righwraiths because they are not there...

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then like, OHHH wait.....hehe...i had a LONG blonde moment, frodo see the raiths pass him, but they can't see him... right?

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PostPosted: September 28th, 2006, 8:15 pm 
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oh contraire..... they see him more clearly because he has the ring on.....the ringwraiths are drawn to the ring

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oh... and he doesn't know that!?!?!?!?!?

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PostPosted: September 28th, 2006, 8:24 pm 
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he does but the ring bids him to put it on....its like he has to resist the temptation...it is strong, for the ring wants to go back to it's master

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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH......so basically Sauron forces with some strange power, though the ring, forces frodo to be revealed to the riders so they know who they are looking for

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PostPosted: September 28th, 2006, 8:36 pm 
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yeah! only...its the ring alone.....its got a mind of its own, sauron is just looking for it....

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OK !!!! thanks i've like always wondered that, but y doesn't bilbo see evil when he wears the ring?

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PostPosted: September 28th, 2006, 8:39 pm 
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what excactly do you mean..."see evil"?

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like what frodo saw?

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he sees a bit cloudly thats all....he sees evil more closely, and an evil shadow come forth...

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so his eye sight is kinda cloudy

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it is....but his senses are intensified...he can hear and feel so much better

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ok!!! thanks alot!!!!

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PostPosted: September 29th, 2006, 4:06 am 


Bilbo does not see the ringwraiths because they are not near him. He does not know of the rings power, and uses it occasionally, to avoid certain people. It is too complicated for me to explain here, but I would recommend reading about it (either in the books, or online) if you really want to understand.

You may be able to find something here, on the Encyclopedia of Arda: http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/

Or here on the Council of Elrond: http://www.councilofelrond.com/index.php


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