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PostPosted: October 28th, 2006, 7:41 am 
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Perhaps Sauron didn't feel so much in contact with his femine side to make a bracelet or a necklace...

*cough* Also rings are very symbolic, they are found in many mythologies and legends. I don't know why, but perhaps because of the shape. It's round, without a beginning or an end.

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No I think it's importand to question everything in life. I suppose a ring was small and easy to look after. It could have been a necklace I suppose, but I think the only way to take a ring from someone is to either cut their finger off or hold them down and take it off.


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Eä, that's a very good idea about the symbolic content of a ring...
And Peredhil-Lover, I agree about the questioning :-D


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that was a good question! Well, I think that by creating a ring he kinda unites all the races into one thing. You know what I mean, a ring is something circular, something very symbolic, we could even say, innofensive (it's not the case of this ring hahaha) It's kinda interesting to see how such a small object may do horrible things. But you know, I like the fact that it is a ring that makes all that, even Sauron could create something beautiful, because the ring is beautiful isn't it :P

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Yup sure is beautiful, though I quite like Nenya and Vilya too ^_^


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Well, if you think about it a Ring is small and you can constantly keep it nearby by wearing it. You wouldn't want your most "prized posession" to be a shoe or something else just as random. It must have meaning behind it. Sauron gave the Elves, Dwarves, and Men rings, so why not make the master a Ring too? It's only logical I think.


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Ther idea of it being a ring, is the fact that it is symobolic of eternal. The fact it has no beginning and no end, means that the power of sauron would have no end and i t would work much in the same pattern as to follow that of the ring, one motion circuling power with no end if you get what i mean?

A ring. An everyday object, small and usually insignficant. It's something that you wouldn't pay much attention to reallly, but they always represent something. In the same way in which a wedding ring would represent the fact that you are 'joined' to someone, the one ring represents the fact that Sauron is 'joined' to his soul and the power to dominate all races is held within this one ring.

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maybe it was like Voldemort+ the horcruxes.. he was part of the Ring and it's crucial for him to live.. well - it's crucial to him that he can control others. that's what I've thought. dont know if it answers the quiestion tho and i havenät been following the thread so maybe someone else said that already :)

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Well the most obvious answer would be, because through a ring, he could control the 9 Kings of Men and the 7 Dwarf Lords, giving him access to incredible power by controlling all the kindreds under the Kings of Men and the Dwarf Lords.

The ring might have been the only object with which to ensnare the peoples of Middle Earth.

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I haven't read the Silmarillion for a while, but if my memory serves me right here's the reasoning...

Sauron was originally one of the Maia (correct me peoples if I'm wrong!) which are like a lesser version of the Valar, who are the creators of the elves. So he started good, and could take on the appearance of a 'good' elf.
When his master, Melkor, was defeated, he became the chief bad guy. He still had the appearance of an elf/maia.
I can't remember all the story, but long and short of it he tricked the elves into liking and trusting him. He shared all his 'wisdom' with them, teaching them how to craft rings of power. That's were I find the movie a bit misleading. It was the elves who made the rings, not Sauron. He then ran off with them (the rings, not the elves), except for the three most powerful which the elves kept hidden.
Because he knew how the rings were made, he then created 'one ring to rule them all' in secret. Still in the form of a good guy, he gave rings of power to races weaker than the elves; men and dwarves. They were slowly corrupt by him and his ring, as it's evil was bound to all the others. He had thought maybe to control the elvish rings, but (not sure about this bit, just a guess) because of the power of the wielders (Galadriel, Elrond and Cirandir? They guy from the havens, anyway. ) and of the rings, he could not. The three rings could no longer be used to their full potential, either.

So that is why he needed the ring... to gain dominion over those tricked into wielding them. I guess it was rings because that was the sort of thing the elves would make and put power into. They might have got a bit suspicious if he had wanted to make swords to bring peace....

I don't think the possibility of him being killed ever crossed his mind when he poured his power completely into the ring. He only saw it as a way to rule others.

Oh, and if I recall correctly, the moment he put the one ring on he was revealed to the elves, and could never take on the form of a good guy (I have to stop using that term...) again. Or maybe that was Melkor at some other stage... memory's getting a bit hazy.

Anyways, I hope that was remotely clear and not too long. And please anyone correct me if bit are wrong, or if I'm way off. :P Hope it does answer some questions, though.


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that was a looooong and very good answer!! was Sauron originally an elf?

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was Sauron originally an elf?

No. He was a Maia spirit; one of the servants of the Valar, until he was corrupted by Morgoth.

Since he was a Maia, when amongst the Elves in the Third Age, he took the form of an Elf and called himself Annatar (Lord of Gifts) and so deceived the other elves

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Celebwen wrote:
(Galadriel, Elrond and Cirandir? They guy from the havens, anyway. )


Cirdan, is the name of the third one. ;)

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Oh, and if I recall correctly, the moment he put the one ring on he was revealed to the elves, and could never take on the form of a good guy (I have to stop using that term...) again. Or maybe that was Melkor at some other stage... memory's getting a bit hazy.


To comfirm this line:

Ecyclopedia of Arda wrote:
In the Second Age, during the time when the Rings of Power were made, he took on the semblance of a noble teacher. However, his shape-changing abilities were not limitless, and after the Downfall of Númenor they were severely curtailed:

'...he was robbed now of that shape in which he had wrought so great an evil, so that he could never again appear fair to the eyes of Men...' (1)


So you where right in all, except the name of Cirdan :P[/quote]

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Oh, but I love how it's a ring. Like Boromir said in TFOTR movie--"So much fear and doubt over so small a thing." And one of my favorite descriptions in the book is when Frodo attempts to throw the Ring into his fireplace and suddenly realizes how shiny, how golden, and how perfectly circular it is.

"It was the elves who made the rings, not Sauron. He then ran off with them (the rings, not the elves)...."
--Celebwen

Thanks for being so descriptive! tee-hee...ran off with the elves...

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:) *gets it* ahaa so he was a Maia. thankies :)

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There might be another reason why Tolkien wrote about a ring. The Lord of the Rings has been influenced by many symbols and aspects of the Norse mythology (at least I think it's the Norse mythology) There was also a Ring that had power and corrupted the people or something like that. Just like the fact that Sauron's form was an eye, the most powerfull god, Odin, I think, had only one eye. The other one he had sacrificed for more knowledge. (he wanted to know the Runes) So, that might be why it was a Ring and not some other thing.

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