LOL!!! it is funny to relate a balrog to a penguin!!!!!!! LOL!!!

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Oh man, another frequently-asked question! Someone should make a site called "The Frequently Asked Questions of LOTR", (or a forum if it's for DISCUSSION on these topics) and have it all about what people usually ask. "What do you think about Eowyn and Faramir's relationship?" "what do you think about Arwen taking Glorfindel's place in the Flight to the Ford scene?" "if the Balrog had wings, why didn't it just FLY out of Khazad-dum?" "is a Balrog related to a penguin? (no, just kidding. )" "why did Legolas shoot Grima in ROTK?" "WHY didn't they show Boromir's gift?" etc. etc. If you made a site it would probably be because you have the answers yourself, but if you're making a forum, it's for discussion. Wishful thinking, wishful thinking...

But one of the things I noticed in the film was that the Balrog's wings basically looked like they were just made out of smoke and shadow, so maybe they were just for show...I don't know. They didn't really look like they were used for flying. You know that the Balrog also had horns, but I doubt that he uses them to ram people when they're in his path! Just my thoughts on the matter, but I remember puzzling over this question FOR-EVER myself. How I wish I could just sit down and interview Peter Jackson...>sighs wistfully<

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This is a very complicated problem and one that has puzzled Tolkien fans for quite some time. Since I am new here and have not been "tested" as boards tend to do, I will give a light order on the subject.

First of all Balrogs were not a product of evil, but became evil later in existence. Actually they began much the same as did Gandalf and as in the order of Sauron. It was not until after they were greatly influenced by evil that they took on the ghastly appearance we know of as Fire Demons or Demons of Power. With this in mind we know that they did not evolve, so to speak, from another species. Also, if one reads the trials and tribulations of the Balrogs, they could have escaped much punishment if they did indeed have wings so that they may fly away to some port of sanctuary.

Thats very interesting, but why do they say, "A Balrog of morogoth" if they were not created by Melknor then were they a thought of Illuvatar

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Hmm....a very interesting discussion going on here. So, Gandalf you say that Balrog's do not have wings. Right?

Since we are "groomed", so to speak, to see things in the natural world - things that can be related in one way or the other - then it is impossible to describe "other-worldish" matters in an acceptable manner.

In the writings of the Holy Bible, David prays that his God comfort him under the shadow of His Wings. Does the God of the Bible have wings?

So, yes and no - but, the Balrog had extensions of his form that we would categorically deem as wings.

So, it's kind of like a figure of speech?

You're a genius Gandalf! That's the best explanation I've read yet

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Phew! That's quite well thought through! Yeah, I agree with that.

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^^ I agree! Gandalf, you make total sense!!

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ooo good point, Gandalf

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lol! Bringing human nature into the topic!

I like your agruement!

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i think balrogs have wings atleast in the movie they do..

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Why only in the movie? PJ makes everything like the books. 8)

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ok, im sorry but i dont see why there is any debate it clearly states in fotr ...

"....the shadow about it reached out like two vast wings....it drew itself up to a great height, and its wings were spread from wall to wall...."

now i think what the dabate should be is, what are these wings? i personally think that the beast is shadow with an outside scattered with flame as if the shaddow itself was on fire. this shaddow must have a shape that depicts what we would call wings because thats what it says in the book

ps: im not being anoyed or anything, just thought i should say so cause ppl often get the wrong idea when reading someones words nd not hearing the tone in their voice

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Wow one of my favourite subjects. But I am quite tired now and I will answer tomorrow.

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