Exactly. I have seen in various topics that we agree in many points sjmetz.
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| Author: | Rain-maker [ January 20th, 2006, 2:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | what exactly is goldberry? |
i have never really known what exaclty goldberry is, i mean was she just a human who got lost in the woods and got found by tom? or is she something, human like. i always fancied she was a bit magical. but anyone got any suggestions? |
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| Author: | Elessar Celebrindal [ January 20th, 2006, 3:19 am ] |
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Since she's called the "River-daughter," I've always equated her with a Naiad. I suppose, though, that she's a Maia, since I don't believe Tolkien ever mentioned Naiads.... I think she is very magical, though. |
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| Author: | xXxNimrodelxXx [ January 20th, 2006, 11:32 am ] |
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I'm sure she's a Maia, but I have to look up where it is in the books..I think it was in the appendixes or something like that... |
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| Author: | Lhunardaien [ January 20th, 2006, 1:57 pm ] |
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I don't really know... I always think about her as a kind of nature creature...You know those fearies and little elves who are about to protect the nature and all his creatures... Kind of non-existing creatures in fact.. |
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| Author: | Aerandir [ January 20th, 2006, 2:36 pm ] |
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Yeah, Lan, same here. I've always considered her to be a Maia, but always thought about her as a Naiad. |
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| Author: | Elu Thingol [ January 20th, 2006, 4:56 pm ] |
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I have always thought of her as being an enigma, just like Tom Bombadil. I don't think she's a Maia. |
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| Author: | Nauriel Rochnur [ January 23rd, 2006, 12:19 am ] |
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I've wondered that too. It keeps me up at night. No, it really doesn't, but it does bug me. I don't think she's a maia. I don't think Maia have names like Goldberry. Maybe she had a name change. Then she could be a maia. |
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| Author: | Lady Erana [ January 23rd, 2006, 9:34 am ] |
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I believe she's an elf! Isn't it said so in LotR? |
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| Author: | Aerandir [ January 23rd, 2006, 11:30 am ] |
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Sorry, Eowyn_of_Rohan, but it's not. That is never stated in LotR. Well, Elu_Thingol, technically, she is an enigma, since we have no way to tell what she really is, and we can only speculate. So, I'm saying I think she's a Maia, because out of the currently known options, I think that's what she's closest to, because I don't think she's a Vala, Elf, Man, or Dwarf, and she's most certainly not an Orc, Dragon, or Druedain. |
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| Author: | Astaldo [ April 6th, 2006, 9:20 pm ] |
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Well to bring up this topic again I will express my opinion too. I think Goldberry is as mysterious as Tom Bombadil. What we only know about her is that she is the River-daughter. Anything else. It is never writeen if she is a Maia or not. I do not think that she is a Maia. I think of her something like a nature spirit or something. |
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| Author: | Aranel_En_Mirkwood [ April 11th, 2006, 3:07 pm ] |
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maybe she's half elf? or a sea elf? |
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| Author: | Astaldo [ April 12th, 2006, 6:03 am ] |
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Half elf. Hmmm I do not think so. And I do not believe that Prof. Tolken ever wrote aboy half elves |
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| Author: | Aranel_En_Mirkwood [ April 13th, 2006, 3:58 pm ] |
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Astaldo wrote: Half elf. Hmmm I do not think so. And I do not believe that Prof. Tolken ever wrote aboy half elves
he kind of did. Elrond was called Half Elven |
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| Author: | Astaldo [ April 13th, 2006, 4:29 pm ] |
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That is becuause he chose a mortal life. He was not a Half-Elf |
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| Author: | sjmetz7@msn.com [ April 18th, 2006, 9:39 pm ] |
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(taken from the references in the back of the Silmarillion) Elrond is the son of Earendil (who was a son of an elf and a human) and Elwing. --- The race of the child desends from the mother. Elwing was an Elf. The child (when he comes of reasonable age) then chooses a mortal or immortal life. Elrond chose to be rule Elves, Elros chose to rule men, So Elrond is halfelven but his physical features would be elvish. Elros's mother was elvish so he would inherit all physical aspects of elves, except immortality since he chose to rule men. Thus, any child desended from Aragorn and Arwen would have a choice between immortality and mortality. Just because Arwen chose mortality so she could marry Aragorn, their child would still get to make that choice. |
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| Author: | Astaldo [ April 19th, 2006, 12:29 pm ] |
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Exactly. I have seen in various topics that we agree in many points sjmetz.
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