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Post subject:  Posted: December 23rd, 2006, 3:36 am |
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How complex would their language be? Do you think that they made up sentences, or just spoke in monosyllables and grunts?
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Post subject: Posted: December 23rd, 2006, 6:28 am |
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Perhaps not as complicated as that of the higher beings, but far more vocal than that of normal Wolves. Probably the level of communication of Dolphins or even more.
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Post subject: Posted: December 23rd, 2006, 4:32 pm |
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I'd always considered the Wargs to talk normally...not necessarily basic animal talk.
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Post subject: Posted: December 29th, 2006, 12:20 am |
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The books says the "dreadful language of the wargs" which doesn't sound like normal human language... But I'm sad that JRRT made wolves evil.  GO WOLVES!!! 
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Post subject: Posted: December 30th, 2006, 11:22 pm |
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Aren't there normal wolves in M-e? Tell me there aren't just evil wolves/wargs.
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Post subject: Posted: December 31st, 2006, 11:39 am |
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It is implied that there are, considering Gandalf's statement in FotR (don't remember the exact quote and place, but it's something like this). "It is as I feared--these were not normal wolves." He says something like that.
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Post subject: Posted: December 31st, 2006, 6:44 pm |
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I used that quote just earlier:
"It is as I feared,' said Gandalf. `These were no ordinary wolves hunting for food in the wilderness. Let us eat quickly and go!"
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Post subject: Posted: December 31st, 2006, 7:04 pm |
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Iritarimel Noramírë wrote: The books says the "dreadful language of the wargs" which doesn't sound like normal human language... But I'm sad that JRRT made wolves evil. GO WOLVES!!! ~Iri So not all wolves are evil. Just wargs. _________________ <img src="http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/imladriseeker/Lady_of_Ithilien.jpg">
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Post subject: Posted: December 31st, 2006, 7:32 pm |
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Correct. However evil is a strong word...
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Post subject: Posted: January 3rd, 2007, 5:36 am |
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noldor wrote: i seem to recall that when gandalf and company where treed by a warg pack in the hobbit that gandalf and the wargs shouted insults at each other.also the wargs sent messengers to the goblins.
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Post subject: Posted: January 3rd, 2007, 8:11 am |
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i think the wargs and goblins spoke to each other too.aske any farmer what hed think of wolf pack in his area and hed go for his gun at the idea.
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Post subject: Posted: January 4th, 2007, 8:54 am |
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What? That seems like a completely random comment. Care to explain it, please? What does a farmer going for his gun have to do with Wargs and Goblins talking to each other?
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Post subject: Posted: January 4th, 2007, 9:35 am |
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Post subject: Posted: January 4th, 2007, 9:51 am |
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tolkien came from a farming community background (though his father was a banker)where wolves are rememeberd with hatred and loathing as a very dangerous pest from medieval times.modern people thing wolves are cute cos they live in cities.people who live and work in the country have a different perception of nature.
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Post subject: Posted: January 4th, 2007, 10:19 am |
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So your basically saying that Tolkien thought of Wolves with more distaste than modern Urban people would. That makes sense becuase besides from the Rural/Urban difference you mentioned people these days are generally more knowledgable about the natural world than in those days.
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Post subject: Posted: January 4th, 2007, 11:21 am |
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That does make sense I guess... Though I have to disagree with the reason why I like wolves, though of course I have no doubt that you're right noldor about the reason why some people like them. I like their power and grace and wildness that isn't present in most everday dog. (And dogs shouldn't be wild anyway! ) OK, done going off topic now... 
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