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Post subject:  Posted: December 20th, 2006, 8:38 pm |
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I know, but steep to the point of sloping almost backwards? Wearing down doesn't do that.
Crude.
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Post subject: Posted: December 20th, 2006, 9:17 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: December 20th, 2006, 9:59 pm |
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You know when Frodo and Sam are sleeping on them before Gollum puts the Lembas all over Sam? Well I never really found out how they stayed on that thing. It looked as if they moved just an inch they would roll right off!!  _________________ <center> 
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Post subject: Posted: December 20th, 2006, 10:31 pm |
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I know. When I watched it in theatres I was just like: someone's gonna fall. I just know it. Just watch. Right over the edge. Oh, never mind, just the lembas...
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Post subject: Posted: December 21st, 2006, 7:49 pm |
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Princess of Ithilien wrote: I know, but steep to the point of sloping almost backwards? Wearing down doesn't do that.
Crude.
Well, Thats how they were represented in Peters film. The stairs, if my memory serves me, were a bit neat in Tolkien's description. First you had the flight of winding stairs, then the steep stairs. I'm just trying to keep all options open before much talk. _________________ <center>~*The Not-Too-Much-Obsessed-With-Nature A-U Gentle-Woman*~<center>
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Post subject: Posted: December 21st, 2006, 10:27 pm |
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Galadhrim_arrow wrote: Princess of Ithilien wrote: I know, but steep to the point of sloping almost backwards? Wearing down doesn't do that.
Crude. Well, Thats how they were represented in Peters film. The stairs, if my memory serves me, were a bit neat in Tolkien's description. First you had the flight of winding stairs, then the steep stairs. I'm just trying to keep all options open before much talk. I'm sorry. I read the books before the movie came out and I had a perfect vision in my mind. In my head, the stairs looked TERRIBLE and that's how I always imagine them...But actually, he does describe them unevenly spaced also. It said something along the lines of cut into a sheer rock face, so I always thought they were uneven, precarious steps that form almost a ladder, than, you know, a normal stairway. It just seems a little unskilled.
Oh, and I just remembered! The stairs themselves are not Cirith Ungol [are they?]. The tower is Cirith Ungol. How silly of me! It's just I just finished watching TTT and Faramir just said the Passage of Cirith Ungol...anyways... _________________ <img src="http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/imladriseeker/Lady_of_Ithilien.jpg">
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Post subject: Posted: December 22nd, 2006, 2:12 am |
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hobbit_fan wrote: You know when Frodo and Sam are sleeping on them before Gollum puts the Lembas all over Sam? Well I never really found out how they stayed on that thing. It looked as if they moved just an inch they would roll right off!! That's what I thought.  I guess I pictured myself in there and all I saw was myself rolling off. So I was really...tense about them sleeping there. I'm not a big fan of heights you see. -gulp- _________________ <p><center><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/RingetteStar/larajadesig.png">
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Post subject: Posted: December 22nd, 2006, 3:50 am |
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Cirith Ungol was the entire pass. It was the stairs, tunnel, and tower all put together, besically. The stairs were just...the Winding Stairs, the tower was the Tower of Cirith Ungol, and the tunnel was Torech Ungol.
But I read the book before the movie came out, too, and I didn't picture the stairs nearly that steep. I still don't.
Regardless, I believe it might very well have been made at the order of Sauron, to provide a southern entrance into Mordor. The other possibility is that it was made by the Numenorians as a way to get up to the tower.
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Post subject: Posted: December 23rd, 2006, 12:12 am |
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Princess of Ithilien wrote: Galadhrim_arrow wrote: Princess of Ithilien wrote: I know, but steep to the point of sloping almost backwards? Wearing down doesn't do that.
Crude. Well, Thats how they were represented in Peters film. The stairs, if my memory serves me, were a bit neat in Tolkien's description. First you had the flight of winding stairs, then the steep stairs. I'm just trying to keep all options open before much talk. I'm sorry. I read the books before the movie came out and I had a perfect vision in my mind. In my head, the stairs looked TERRIBLE and that's how I always imagine them...But actually, he does describe them unevenly spaced also. It said something along the lines of cut into a sheer rock face, so I always thought they were uneven, precarious steps that form almost a ladder, than, you know, a normal stairway. It just seems a little unskilled. Oh, and I just remembered! The stairs themselves are not Cirith Ungol [are they?]. The tower is Cirith Ungol. How silly of me! It's just I just finished watching TTT and Faramir just said the Passage of Cirith Ungol...anyways... Aww, don't worry about it! Yeah, Cirith-Ungol is the tower that the orcs had Frodo in. Of course, unless some one gives me strong proof, I am still thinking that the Numenorians built the steps. _________________ <center>~*The Not-Too-Much-Obsessed-With-Nature A-U Gentle-Woman*~<center>
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Post subject: Posted: December 24th, 2006, 8:07 pm |
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I think that when the Numenorians held Minas Ithil, and Cirith Ungol was put in place to watch over Mordor and keep evil out, they had the stairs cut so soldiers in Minas Ithil could communicate with Cirith Ungol. Just seems to make sense, and time would wear the stairs down. And not only time, but the evil of Sauron, the Nazgul, and Shelob..
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Post subject: Posted: December 26th, 2006, 4:34 pm |
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Cirith Ungol is not the tower itself, as I recall. It is the entire pass.
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Post subject: Posted: December 26th, 2006, 8:21 pm |
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^Yes, I just remembered that about a day afterwards.
I reread that bit in TTT, and I still can't imagine that description to be about something Numenoreans built.
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Post subject: Posted: December 28th, 2006, 7:29 am |
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Well, a couple thousand years will decay a flight of stairs, you know.  _________________
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Post subject: Posted: December 28th, 2006, 7:15 pm |
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Ravennë wrote: hobbit_fan wrote: You know when Frodo and Sam are sleeping on them before Gollum puts the Lembas all over Sam? Well I never really found out how they stayed on that thing. It looked as if they moved just an inch they would roll right off!! That's what I thought. I guess I pictured myself in there and all I saw was myself rolling off. So I was really...tense about them sleeping there. I'm not a big fan of heights you see. -gulp- Eep I know! I hate heights. I get so scared lol.
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Post subject: Posted: December 31st, 2006, 9:33 pm |
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Princess of Ithilien wrote: ^Yes, I just remembered that about a day afterwards.
I reread that bit in TTT, and I still can't imagine that description to be about something Numenoreans built.
they'd probly be more neat. _________________
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Post subject: Posted: January 1st, 2007, 9:52 am |
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Well, it's actually kind of surprising that they'd still be there, considering that they'd been around for around 3000 years.
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