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 Post subject: Dead Marshes
PostPosted: September 12th, 2009, 10:36 pm 
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Discuss these eerie lights, dead faces, etc here!

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Marshes
PostPosted: July 20th, 2011, 2:48 am 
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This is the part of TTT I like most. I think because it was so sad and full of misery. There was no fresh air, everywhere treacherous marches and dangerous places, noone besides the three travelers. I read it in very short time :whistle:

Also, the dead faces were very nostalgic...

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Marshes
PostPosted: July 20th, 2011, 4:42 am 
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What kind of magic do you think was on the land? Since the dead still looked like real people and hadn't decayed. And the lights... I think they did it so well in the movie. I really wanted to follow the lights.. but it was so spooky and eerie at the same time. Should the lights represent each person's "soul"? Since Gollum tells the hobbits not to follow the lights or they themselves will die and light small candles of their own? *shudder*

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Marshes
PostPosted: July 20th, 2011, 4:48 am 
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The lights were probably the souls who were tempting visitors to die as well. That was not evil magic, like Sauron's but it may be old magic from old days, like Shelob.

Yes, in the movies it was made very pretty but I prefer my own imagination which portrayed it very different ^^

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Marshes
PostPosted: July 11th, 2012, 5:41 am 
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Very moving and mysterious chapter and I really like it, though I don't know many people who share my likeness. I think it had thick atmosphere and was great for read in a stormy day.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Marshes
PostPosted: May 4th, 2013, 3:12 am 
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I really like this chapter, as I like the Sam and Frodo' journey. Very sad and gloomy passage but I loved reading about it, about dead faces in the water and heavy atmosphere of the marshes.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Marshes
PostPosted: February 12th, 2014, 10:36 am 
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I like it too. The atmosphere of the chapter is unique, there's not anything like it in other chapters of Lotr.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Marshes
PostPosted: October 18th, 2014, 4:24 pm 
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Nienor Níniel wrote:
I like it too. The atmosphere of the chapter is unique, there's not anything like it in other chapters of Lotr.

I agree. I always thought of the lights as souls or at least fragments of the soul of those trapped in the marshes. Maybe as if the lights were a fragment of the soul that was angered by the death of the physical body it once inhabited. That anger turned to envy and started to call forth others to join them. The more I thought about it them more it became frighteningly beautiful and sad to me.
I thought they did well in the films as well. I think what creeped me out the most was the sound effects. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Marshes
PostPosted: December 1st, 2014, 4:46 pm 
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The first thing I thought of when the lights appeared were actually the Will 'o' the Wisps from Ireland folklore, so I pictured them as such. However, the dead faces in the water and Gollum's phrase "the candles of the dead" send an incredibly creepy twist to my vision of them. I'm not sure as to what the faces are, though. I know that they are the faces of the dead, but Gollum says that even if you try, you can not touch them, that they are visions. I love this scene because it shows that not all magic was caused by Sauron or the Istari or elves, and that gives it a mysterious air that just adds to its eeriness. It also shows Tolkien's gift of writing that makes it seem like there is so much more to the story, even though he gives a ton of details and facts about it.


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 Post subject: Re: Dead Marshes
PostPosted: March 23rd, 2015, 9:22 pm 
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As far as the "safe" way through the marshes... is there only one or did Golumn just happen to find one of several? Does Tolkien ever even address that?

Also, does anything even live in the marshes? Fish, animals, rabbits etc... anything?

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