Ohhhhhhh! If there was one thing that hit my nerve in the movie, it was this. I the book, I loved Faramir sooo much. But they totaly eviled his charachter in the movie. And the whole thing of taking Frodo and Sam to Minas Tirith. Grrrr. It makes me mad.

Truthfully I like Faramir in both the books and the movie even if his roll and apearance are very different, in a way i had a hard time comprehending that it was Faramir rather than a different character.

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Yes, in the movie he is portrayed quite differently, but I didn''t like it.

I read the book before I saw the movie, so Faramir immediately became one of my favorite characters. He seemed really kind and I felt sorry for him. His was a scholar more than a warrior, and I think the last thing he wanted to do was go to war. When I saw the movie, I was really angry at Peter Jackson. I didn't know why in the world he had ruined Faramir's image like that. Yeah I know that he lived in his brother's shadow all his life, but I still don't think that his character deserved to be treated like that. I think that if Tolkien ever saw the movie, he would have been disappointed about Faramir.

~Miri

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Yeah, Faramir is more of a person who will fight only as a last alternative. But he can still fight really well.
Why PJ, why! Why did you have to change him so! Oh what tangled webs we weave! *goes off mumbling to self*

i like faramir probabley a little better in the books.. i like him in the movies to though

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in the movie all he does is NOT smil*what's he word* oh yeah: he frowned a lot

How true. In the book he was niice and actually sat down for a meal with Frodo and Sam. He was kind and generous and did not take them to Minas Tirith. Grrrrr.

Well, he was a sad man considering his father didn't think much of him, his brother died, and there was war going on all around him.

Yeah, but in the book he managed to still be kind and thoughtful, even through that. In the movie it seemed like it made him very bitter. In the book I have no doubt that he was sad and bitter, but he didn't allow it to interfere with his life.

Paradoxicaly, the Faramir we all know in the book has much more dimension and depth than the Faramir we saw on screen. In the book, we sense that he carries every traits of the Numenirian race in his blood, both physically and intellectually. He has this mystery and magic surrounding him. He is noble, wise, cultivated but equally as weak as his Numenorians ancesters. In fact he is the archetype of the lovable anti-hero.

Fleur

I love the word Paradoxical! I agree with you completely. But I don't get how he is weak like the Numenorians. He resisted the temptation of the ring, and survived years with a mad insane father. That takes quite a bit of strength

That is true, but he still has this doubt deeply, he challenges himself by looking at this thing only because he knows the strory surrounding the ring and how it had corrupted one of the strongest and most pawerful race. It is said that he has numenorian blood. When he realises that he is in the presence of the One ring, I think that he goes through a mine journey of self-realisation. He is definitely more numenorian than any late numenorians. Although I am not that facinated by the numenorian race. They seem a bit like any otehr colonial opressors to me mixed with the intellectual decadence of Romans. They aimed to be a fine civilisation but they turned out to be decayed by theri own vanity.

Faramir is quite above that, but he did seem that he could have gone under the power of the Ring should he had not have his visions about frodo and the ring. At that right moment, I sensed that he was the verge of being seduced by the ring.


It is only my own perception....

Fleur

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That's a good idea, and it is true that it was the vision that stopped him, but I think that vision was part of him, and that vision was one of realizing that the ring was evil and he shouldn't be seduced by it.

I aree with mostly everyone here. I especially liked how Fleur put it. I read the books first (as is the law of our household) and absolutly fell in love with Faramir! He was so thoughtful, kind, strong, wise, admirable, intelectual, skillful...*sigh*...the list goes on and on. Then the Two Towers came out- I explode-literally! I was ranting a nd raving to all my lotr friends and them with me. I loved everything in TTT-gollum, Eowen, the battle of helms deep-but then there was Faramir. GRRRR!!!!! They made him such a cry-baby-my father doesn't love me so I gotta take the ring and make dadda happy-wimp!!!!! *takes deep breaths to compose myself* I still think David did a good job and ovbiously I don't blame him I blame PJ! lol. But hey you just gotta move on. Then when the EE came out I was a little relieved but still not satisfied. Like I love that they put in the scene where Faramir muses over the death of the Easterly (which was Sam in the book but I think Faramir may have thought those things too) but it didn't really fit with his hole bad---I'm goingto take the ring spazium (sp?) So yeah...that's my lenthy opinion (or some of it at least...I could go on. lol)
~Merry

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~Merry

Nice rant. Very entertaining.
What was the death of the Easterly?

Oh, and go on. Rant all you want. I'll be right there with you.