The thing is, evil is such a deragatory word and should only be used on characters like Voldemort. Snape definitely had a cruel streak in him that was brought on by his loathing toward Harry because of James' past actions toward him, as well as the fact that he is a constant reminder of his past failures.

I'm not trying to defend Severus' actions toward Harry, because much of the time they were quite uncalled for. This was definitely Severus Snape's weakness. He couldn't let go of past problems, he held on too much. People need to realise that. If Snape had just let go of his past hatred we may have seen an entirely different man. Sadly, that is not how things turned out.

And seriously, Snape's life sucked majorly. Why do people still want him to be the supposedly evil character? Doesn't he deserve a little recognition and love for once?

*huggles teh Snape-y*

[Aah, I get it now! Lol. Sorry for sounding angry or anything like that. I certainly didn't mean to. I just didn't understand the reasoning behind your post. ]

[Meehee. *Pets* Tis alright. I watched it while i was slightly delirious in the morning and everything seems funny when you're slightly unconcious... lol! >.>]

I know. *Huggles teh Snapers* I lurve himmm.

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*nudges Snape thread*

Why did people leave once we actually got a discussion going?

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I'm here! I just didnt wanna reply to meself! lol!

*Licks Snape*

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Well... I was waiting for a reply that would further the sentiments voiced in my previous post. No offence to Inwe of course, for her post was full of good ol' Snape lovin'.

Actually i didnt have time to read it all... >.< Sister needed compy and i just replied with something short; SORRY!
so here we go's:

He held grudges that could have made his life soooo much better! I totally understand that. I think that also think that JKR wanted us to realize that even the meanest of characters have good inside them. She shows that all throughout her books then really shows it when Snape helps Dumbledore. Ya know? Some people are just so blind to that sometimes it makes me sad. 'Cause they may have someone in their class or at their workplace that is mean-ish and they never try to be nice to them because of it. There may be grudges or hatred but when one of those two things show themselves there is always a reason and Snapes reason was heartbreak.

And i also think he deserved to have a decent end. Much like JKR had [SPOILERISHinpharinthases] (I'd have let him live if it were me tho. <3) but he deserved to be known as a good man even if he did some really nasty things.

*Licks Larael* I didnt really answer your post just brought my thoughts into it and agreed.... ^^ Thats better... Oh! Wait! *Lurvles Snape*

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*has been licked*

Heh.. thanks.

*le nod* I very much agree with that. You've brought up another good point. Despite the fact that Snape has a mean streak and is cruel to some degree, he has shown remorse for the bad things he has done. That's what makes him a thousand times better than say, Voldemort, or other such evildoer's who haven't the gut to ask for forgiveness.

*Nodnod* Yesyes. He has a conscience. <3 which most death eaters lose in my opinion, no?

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Oh, yes. I definitely believe that by the end of DH it is safe to assume that many of the DEs have lost all sense of conscience really. Of course, they can still think for themselves, etc. but they have become practically immune to killing and torturing.

Our Snape, bless him, keeps his the whole way through. He knows his faults and he sets himself on a path to right them.

I am one of those people who thought Snape to be incredibly annoying and mean in the books (which he also was!) and didn't see what else could lie behind his character. But looking at it from a literary view his character really was the gift Rowling talks about. Hidden agendas and motives are always interesting, and having the reader believe something about him but putting those small hints implying something else.

I like your last post Larael. I think you're (partly) right about how he differs from the Death Eaters. But the fact that he only was a true Death Eater way back in the beginning whereas the others were all the way through is also different.

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Oh, yes. With no doubt, I too probably hated Snape for a good while, until maybe OotP. He really was a cruel character and I don't know how you could go through books 1-4 without really hating him.

However, the "Snape's Worst Memory" chapter first gave me the idea that JKR might have a secret motive for his character. That chapter really stuck out to me, and since then my heart has slowly been warmed to this so-called greasy git.

So yeah, I totally haven't loved Snape through the entirety of the series. It's just, the good in him appeared to me a lot sooner than it did to others.

I didnt hate him in the books but seeing AR play him in the movies i just loved him. I saw AR's portrail of him in my mind and thought that there had to be more since he was so... secretive? is that the word? he wasnt a popular character yet he had a major reoccuring role even if it was just one or two scenes or chapters ya know? I loved how he picked on Harry and the gang b/c that really goes on in real life all the time. Maybe not as mean as it was done in HP but it is done! You know? idk i sound meanish for liking the fact that Harry and the others suffered but I knew that Snapey had to be bitter about SOMETHING. Something happened that we didnt know about and i wanted to luff him anyways.... lol! that sounds funny.... *Shifty eyes*

there's my two cents.

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I think I see what you're getting at. He definitely was a mysterious character for me at the beginning of the HP series because of the fact that he acted mean and cruel for seemingly no reason at all.

Eventually we found out about his animosity toward James, but that was the extent of it. By Prisoner of Azkaban and onward, Snape turned into a more interesting character. We learned more and more about it, and some of us grew to love the poor man.

Have you noticed that he's had his own chapter in almost every single HP book?

Indeed, Alan Rickman is responsible for a lot of my affection for Snape *coughcough* He is a lot better looking in the movies than in Rowling's book description. However, his character is more complex in the book because Snape gets so relative few scenes in the movies. *sigh*

No, I didn't notice, Larael. What are the Snape chapters about and in which books does he not have a chapter dedicated?

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Yes i did notice and had a slight idea that that was important to Snapes past... it made me suspicious. Kinda like i said before he played a minor part that had a major idea behind it... ("Idea" is not the word i'm looking for but i cant think straight right now so just bear with me... ^^)

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That's a perfect description of the extent of my relationship with Snape's character. Alan Rickman's portrayel provides the mental image, whilst Rowling's descriptions and insight into his past and motives help me to like him as a person as well.

Yes, let's see...
Philoshopher's Stone - The Potion's Master
Chamber of Secret's - none
Prisoner of Azkaban - Snape's Grudge
Goblet of Fire - none
Order of the Phoenix - Snape's Worst Memory
Half-Blood Prince - Flight of the Prince
Deathly Hallows - The Prince's Tale

Of course, not only does he have a few of his own chapters, Snape's story is woven through out many other chapters in each book. So, whilst he did not have his own chaptes in CoS and GoF, he was featured predominently as being connected somehow with the Dark Side and having some other purpose that had not been explained.