I'd really like to join. I love that film. I saw it at school a few months ago

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Yes, of course Firiel! Feel free to discuss about Schindler's List, I'll add you to the member list.

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I've got a question for you all: Why do you like Schindler's List?? I mean what do you think is the most fascinating thing in the movie??

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Unfortunatly, I have not seen them movie, but I have read the book called "Shindler's List" by Thomas Keneally, could I possibly still be a part of the club? *looks hopeful*

Oh! I love this movie. It's one of my favorites. I saw it in World History just this year. Basically, I gotta join! lol

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I love it bc it was realistic; not somehow cropping the truth... and yeah, the story & the playing, directing and all the stuff... it was pretty much awesome ^^;

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I think what I like most about the movie is that it is so realistic and that it is a true story. It shows that not all here in Germany were mad because of Hitler, but it also shows how cruel Hitler and his people were and what a terrible mistake the Germans have done by supporting him.

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Larael: Certainly! Anything relating to Schindler's List and any fans who likes it are welcome!

Arien Elensar: Same here! Welcome to the club!



What I love about Schindler's List is the pure emotion. The realism. Remarkably how factual it is in the movie. Schindler's List makes it so that, it shows Oskar Schindler starting out to being an average German businessman who is on good terms with the Nazi party. [There have been debates as to whether or not Oskar Schindler was actually a Nazi member despite his pin.] As the movie goes on and we see that he's not that likeable being moral people. He drinks, he sleeps around with his many secretaries, he cheats on his wife, but we see him change gradually as he sees all the violence taken against the Jews, and eventually he changes the fates of all the Jews that he saves by keeping at his factory, he also changes himself as a person and his morals take an entire U-turn. He saves the Jews, he only drinks midly, he apologizes to his wife and swears (in a church) that he would never cheat on her again, and he even makes her part of his factory circle.

The characters are POWERFUL, and Steven Spielberg did an amazing job. The one that touched me the most was Schindler, but second in running was the little girl in the red coat. She didn't have a huge part, she didn't even have a line! But she touched me so much that the second time she showed up on the cart where the Jews were burying the graves, I started crying and bawling my eyes out!

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Oh! The movie sounds just as good as the book was, I heard from a friend that we will probably be watching it in World History, but were not even close to studying World War II yet. *sigh*

The book was rather confusing, but I do remember the fact that Schindler did indeed take a turn for the better by putting the Jews in his factory and saving their lives.
Can anyone remember why he made such a dramatic change in his attitude about Jews? Why did he start saving them?

Ya know, I think I had a banner made not long ago with Oskar on it...

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Ooooo a very nice banner! Thanks for sharing that with us, Larael! Of course, Schindler didn't save thousands, he managed to save [s]1500[/s] (my mistake, it's 1100), which is a great accomplishment!

I'm not quite sure what exactly changes Oskar Schindler. I've only seen the movie, and I don't know how accurate on the reasonings behind occurances are but....

In the movie, Oskar Schindler starts off with recruiting all of his workers. He doesn't get attached to them, but he's nice to them.

Okay, I don't want you to be spoiled, so don't read on if you really don't want to be spoiled.

On the day of the liberation of the ghettos to be moved to concentration camps, Oskar Schindler is out horse-back riding with one of his many secretaries. He is watching over a hill in the city and there's violence, gunshots everywhere. He sees a particular little girl. A little girl in a red coat run around and manage slips into a building unnoticed. The camera follows her into the building and we see her hide under a bed. That is the last time we see her.

Oskar Schindler is stunned by the violence. But he still doesn't do anything particularly prominent about it. He and his secretary leave the scene. He needs to keep his workers, so he makes sure that all of his workers are not sent to concentration camps and so that they could keep working on producing kitchen ware, etc in the factory.

Later on, he ends up warming up the situation with the Jews and actually does some favors for a Jew that did NOT work in the factory, but came to him for help to getting her parents out of the concentration camps. She says that she hears Schindler's factory is a 'haven'. Schindler's is apalled by this, but does not deny it. He then sends her away, but later we see that he sends for her parents. And she watches as her parents arrive at the factory safely.

Later in the story, as they start burning and burying the Jews to hide the evidence. Oskar Schindler is at the scene with Amon Goeth [I believe that was him --- it could have been Itzhak Stern.] and all the concentration camp Jews are running around digging graves (not knowing that they're for themselves), and a couple of Jews wheel by a wagon filled with bodies and Oskar Schindler's sight follows the wagon and he sees a small body with a little red coat.

By this time, we can assume that the little girl in the red coat is a representation of Oskar Schindler's conscience. And so after seeing the body with the little red coat, Oskar Schindler is now determined to make sure he can save as many Jews as he can.

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Thanks Kitoky!

I think what really draws me to Schindler's List is the fact that the director (can't spell his name properly, so I won't bother) interviewed real people and made there experiences come to life. He took images and from them created the sets and stuck as close to the truth as any director. You know when you are watching it, it hasn't been flowered up or been added to, it's a true story.

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I also think the character of Itzahk Stern takes us closer to the story, because in his conversations with Schindler we get to know much about the whole story and you can see how Jews had to do all the work, even in high positions but still were treated that horribly. I think this also shows how contradictory Hitler's politic was.

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I adore the relationship between Itzhak Stern and Oskar Schindler. They just two of a kind.

Itzhak Stern: "By law I have to tell you, sir, I'm a Jew."
Oskar Schindler: "Well, I'm a German, so there we are."

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Thanks Kit for that wonderful info!

I don't remember a girl in a red coat in the book, but I do think something like that did happen to get Oskar to change his mind.

I like how they didn't show Hitler in the movie. It better depicts that this was a whole society at work against the Jews. The Nazis didn't even consider them human. Hitler's speeches where just so convincing. But he himself killed no one, well, except his family which he suicided in the end so they wouldn't all be treated like Mussolini.

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Yes at first I was confused why they didn't show Hitler, but I think it somehow makes the movie more realistic

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