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i'm sorry :( I do believe he will be seen in the next book somehow though...

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i'm sorry :( I do believe he will be seen in the next book somehow though...


No worries. And I feel the same way. There's something about his death that doesn't seem right. He was never even given a chance to do anything worthwhile before JKRowling killed him off. It sort of makes book 3 completely worthless - what was the point in freeing him, giving Harry a hope of a new home? He's gone now!

Which brings me to the point I have to agree with you, Pandora. We did not actually see Sirius die, or see a body. Unlike Cedric, where we were certain he had died. Nor do we fully understand what this 'veiled curtain' was, what was behind it, and why it was there.

And what's a Sirius Tread without his image on every page :-D



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No worries. And I feel the same way. There's something about his death that doesn't seem right. He was never even given a chance to do anything worthwhile before JKRowling killed him off. It sort of makes book 3 completely worthless - what was the point in freeing him, giving Harry a hope of a new home? He's gone now!

Which brings me to the point I have to agree with you, Pandora. We did not actually see Sirius die, or see a body. Unlike Cedric, where we were certain he had died. Nor do we fully understand what this 'veiled curtain' was, what was behind it, and why it was there.

And what's a Sirius Tread without his image on every page


I completely agree! You took the words out of my head! :D No one really explained how he died, unlike that of Cedric's death and Dumbledore's. Also the fact that he didn't get to do much is still hanging.

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haha Yes, plus Bellatrix only used a stunning spell not a killing spell. We do not know what is behind that viel and there was no proof of Sirius's death so we cannot judge what we do not know...

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plus Bellatrix only used a stunning spell not a killing spell


I didn't notice that! :) Really good point though. But maybe the black curtain means something. I'm sure it will come up again though. I'm surprised Harry didn't ask, seeing as how he's usually so curious.

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he was probably so shocked by the prospect of Sirius being gone that the thought never occured to him?

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hi pplz.may i join? Sirius is my fave HP character.

i reckon in the next HP book something will come up about Sirius's "death" and the veil thing.

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That's true. But I mean maybe the slightest thought might have occured to him, that, how does his going behind the curtain mean he's dead? What is that curtain? He's usually so full of questions no matter what it is, or at least afterward. They keep saying: "Sirius is dead" but he was only hit with a simple spell and what does that curtain have behind it that brings people to say he's dead? I think J.K. Rowling was a bit inconsistent with that. And I'm pretty sure they will Goldelf! :)

lol! Anyways, enough depressing ourselves with his death. I love thinking of him when he was younger. *points to banner* That there is a pic of him taking his O.W.L.'s. :)

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:welcome: ppls!
Arien, yes, that banner is so pretty! :: loves the picture in the far right :: ::points to the pic ::
My preciouss. :swoon:
It´s just sad that no word about the veil was sad in HBP... I thought JKR was going to reveal the truth..
About living behind the veil >> clicky!
And Sirius coming back: http://fanfiction.mugglenet.com/viewstory.php?sid=1633
the Fate story is just soooo sad :'(

And if ya need any more fics with Sirius starring.. I´ve still got some links. ^^

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*gasps* There's a Sirius club? :D Can I join?

While I do think Sirius is dead (sorry people, after book six I went out of Sirius denial and went into Dumbledore denial ;)) I think the veil is definitly going to come into the next book. Luna did talk to Harry about being able listen to people behind the vale which meant that they're not really gone. I also heard an interesting theory on mugglecast that the final Harry vs Voldie fight is going to happen in the department of mysteries as love is the only thing that can defeat Voldie and Dumbledore said that there's a room devoted to love there. So if they are in the ministry I suspect the veil will come into it too.

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Wow! A Sirius Black Club!!!! Let me join!!!!!!! :bounce:

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[quote="Arien Elensar"]That's true. But I mean maybe the slightest thought might have occured to him, that, how does his going behind the curtain mean he's dead? What is that curtain? He's usually so full of questions no matter what it is, or at least afterward. They keep saying: "Sirius is dead" but he was only hit with a simple spell and what does that curtain have behind it that brings people to say he's dead? I think J.K. Rowling was a bit inconsistent with that. And I'm pretty sure they will Goldelf! :)

lol! Anyways, enough depressing ourselves with his death. I love thinking of him when he was younger. *points to banner* That there is a pic of him taking his O.W.L.'s. :)[/quote]

I agree, I didn't even notice he dided and I thought: "Whats harry saying nooooooooo about, he only fell through a curtain!"

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That was kind of weird yes. I had that same feeling!

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Only one pair was still battling, apparently unaware of the new arrival (Dumbledore). Harry saw Sirius duck Bellatrix's jet of red light: he was laughing at her.
'Come on, you can do better than that!' he yelled, his voice echoing around the cavernous room.
The second jet of light hit him squarely on the chest.
The laughter had not quite died from his face, but his eyes widened in shock.
Harry released Neville, though he was unaware of doing so. He was jumping down the steps again, pulling out his wand, as Dumbledore, too, turned towards the dais.
It seemed to take Sirius an age to fall: his body curved in a graceful arc as he sank backwards through the ragged veil hanging from the arch.
Harry saw the look of mingled fear and surprise on his godfather's wasted, once-handsome face as he fell through the ancient doorway and disappeared behind the veil, which fluttered for a moment as though in a high wind, then fell back into place.
Harry heard Bellatrix Lestrange's triumphant scream, but knew it meant nothing - Sirius had only just fallen through the archway, he would reappear from the other side any second...
But Sirius did not reappear.
'SIRIUS!' Harry yelled. 'SIRIUS!'
He had reached the floor, his breath coming in searing gasps. Sirius must be just behind the curtain, he, Harry, would pull him back out...
But as he reached the ground and sprinted towards the dais, Lupin grabbed Harry around the chest, holding him back.
'There's nothing you can do, Harry - '
'Get him, save him, he's only just gone through!'
'- it's too late, Harry.'
'We can still reach him - ' Harry struggled hard and viciously, but Lupin would not let go...
'There's nothing you can do, Harry ... nothing .. he's gone.'


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I cry everytime I read that.. So sad...

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I also heard an interesting theory on mugglecast that the final Harry vs Voldie fight is going to happen in the department of mysteries as love is the only thing that can defeat Voldie and Dumbledore said that there's a room devoted to love there. So if they are in the ministry I suspect the veil will come into it too.

Interesting theory.


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Thanks Elfenwen! :)

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'Come on, you can do better than that!' he yelled, his voice echoing around the cavernous room.
The second jet of light hit him squarely on the chest.
The laughter had not quite died from his face, but his eyes widened in shock.
Harry released Neville, though he was unaware of doing so. He was jumping down the steps again, pulling out his wand, as Dumbledore, too, turned towards the dais.
It seemed to take Sirius an age to fall: his body curved in a graceful arc as he sank backwards through the ragged veil hanging from the arch.
Harry saw the look of mingled fear and surprise on his godfather's wasted, once-handsome face as he fell through the ancient doorway and disappeared behind the veil, which fluttered for a moment as though in a high wind, then fell back into place.
Harry heard Bellatrix Lestrange's triumphant scream, but knew it meant nothing - Sirius had only just fallen through the archway, he would reappear from the other side any second...
But Sirius did not reappear.
'SIRIUS!' Harry yelled. 'SIRIUS!'
He had reached the floor, his breath coming in searing gasps. Sirius must be just behind the curtain, he, Harry, would pull him back out...
But as he reached the ground and sprinted towards the dais, Lupin grabbed Harry around the chest, holding him back.
'There's nothing you can do, Harry - '
'Get him, save him, he's only just gone through!'
'- it's too late, Harry.'
'We can still reach him - ' Harry struggled hard and viciously, but Lupin would not let go...
'There's nothing you can do, Harry ... nothing .. he's gone.'


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