I had to find the club on page two - disgrace!!

True, the role has almost become AR's James Bond. Good for him that he was already an respected and acknowledged actor, otherwise he'd always be stuck as the Harry Potter actor with the greasy wig. It must have been one of the more interesting roles to play, since Snape is always walking the fine line between being the good or bad guy and he has to be believable all the way.

Hmm... how come the Snape thread has ended up as a place to discuss AR and the Ar club has become a place to talk about life, love and the universe..?

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LOL
second page?!!!!!oh my!
the only movies I've seen him in are:HP,and Since and sensebility[i know my spelling is atrouciuoussssssss]]]]]]]]]lol

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and love actually!i forgot

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and:a movie that i forget the name of!lol

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That's very true. Ya know, I feel sorry for the HP trio because it's very hard for them to break away from HP and find other roles. I don't think they'll ever get away from that HP image that they've been known for for so long.

AR really doesn't have to worry about that. I think he said in an interview about Snape [and I may have quoted this on the previous page] that at premiers he could basically put the black wig on a stick and have it sign autographs. I take this to mean that many people still aren't aware of him as an actor. At least in the US of course. I'm positive he's well known here.

LOL! I just noticed that! We shall have to try and stay on topic then.

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ladyofrohan, you might want to join the Alan Rickman club... there we be talking about, discussing, swooning over and simply sharing our love for one of the greatest actors on earth.

Well, I wouldn't feel sorry for the HP actors.. the adult actors are already well knowsn and respected from their other works and Daniel Radcliffe just needed to go full monty on West End to get rid of his Potter image.. or maybe he didn't succeed, but at least the HP movies have helped all the kids to fame and with fame comes other movies!!

Welcome back Inwe... we didn't officially quit the book discussions.. but she who conducted the discussions emigrated temporarily overseas!

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So... is everyone looking forward to some more Snape chapter-by-chapter then? I shall have some by tomorrow most definitely.

EDIT: Nearly forgot - It's Snape -a-doodle's birthday today! If he were alive [yes, Î have gotten over my denial] he would've turned 38 I believe.

Here's some lovely new Snape-y fanart [from Makani, of course ] to celebrate - Slytherin Pride

I must say I quite like her new style of Snape drawing... Obsessed much? Nooo...

*bumpeth* See previous post plus discussion below.

Philosopher's Stone - Chapter 15: The Forbidden Forest



Discussion Topic/Questions:
- Do you think Dumbledore would trust Snape over Harry? Consider situations/events in later books that would contribute to one gaining more of Dumbledore's trust than the other. There could be many ways to go with this.



This assumption caught my eye because it has no basis. Does the trio only assume Filch would side with Snape because of their seemingly similar personalities [or for another reason]? I would have found it more likely for him to side with any teacher over a student.

Philosopher's Stone - Chapter 17: The Man With Two Faces

Besides the title of this chapter being a reference to the fact that Quirrell is a Voldy-mobile do you think we could apply it to Snape who had attempted to save Harry's life on numerous ocassions throughout the year [which we happen to find out in this chapter]?



I'm a bit confused. I thought [after book seven] that Snape protected Harry out of his love for Lily. Is this a mess up on Jo's part or was this another Dumbledore lie?

EDIT: WOOt! We are done with Philosopher's Stone! After we've finished discussing this I'll break out CoS, which is chock full of more Snape-y-ness!

[Yay, great questions. I'd love to dig into them right away. Unfortunately, I have to get some packing done. I'll be leaving for a two-weeks vacation tomorrow morning and I won't have a reliable inter connection, if any. I'm very sorry, but I'll post when I get back! ]

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Oh, that's quite all right, Eä. Have a good holiday! Talk to you when you get back.

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Forgive my absence, I will try to answer the questions.


I think it depends on the situation/event! It takes determination and some courage (and perhaps arronagce?) to stay so unyielding as Dumbledore did when he insisted on Snape's innocence and good motives. I think Dumbledore would trust Snape with his life - which he also ended up doing in some way. Snape is an adult, he knows what threat the Dark Lord is from first hand experience and he is a very skilled wizard. I think Dumbledore would trust Snape's judgement and advice in most matters. However, Dumbledore also trusted Harry on several occasions, especially when it had to do with Harry's personal connections and intuition about Voldemort.

The Filch quote is taken out of context and I don't remember it, but it sounds like the trio assumes Snape would side with Filch because of their similar dark (and mean) personalities.

I'm sorry, I don't remember the last one either. When did James save Snape's life?

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Oh no, there's nothing to forgive. Did you have a good holiday then?

Good points. Do you think he could have trusted them almost equally? I mean, he trusted Snape with his life and Harry with saving the wizarding world, so how much more trusting could he be?

Remember, I think it was mentioned in PoA that Snape followed the Marauders to the Womping Willow where Remus was going to transform into a werewolf. If I remember right, I think they dared him to go, but James made Snape go back at the last minute because he got cold feet about the whole thing. Sooo.. he didn't exactly save Snape's life, but he did keep Snape away from the werewolf-fied Lupin.

Dumbledore is a mysterious character - at least he turned out to be later on after HBP. I think he is a man who spends indefinite hours pondering pros and cons to every aspect of the battle against the dark lord and yet he is able to change his mind within a fraction of a second if need calls for it. So to repeat myself, I think he trusted Snape and confided in him on matters concerning Voldemort, but Harry was sort of a dark horse. So much relied on Harry's on shaping, the choices he made in order to create his own persona - away from Tom Riddle's path. Dumbledore did not underestimate the power of fate and he knew Harry had the potential to defeat the dark lord. However, Harry is only a boy so and he can't rely entirely on one person saving the wizarding world. I think Dumbledore trusts Harry for what he is, a boy with very close connection to Voldemort and therefore uses Harry's information as pieces in his puzzle.

By the way, I don't see the incident with werewolf-Lupin as James saving Snape, even if he might technically have done it - but after all James was also the one who put Snape in this danger. I just like to believe that Snape hated James and could never forgive Harry for being his son.

And yes, I had a great vacation! Thanks. I should be back now for further discussion.

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