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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 10:26 am |
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 10:45 am |
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Thank you, my friends, it was a pleasure to be your murderess. I am sorry I didn't manage to keep the tension all the way to the end but you did a good job. Congratulations. 
Thanks to Kit for hosting the Hallowfest 2010. 
>>CLUES EXPLAINED<<
Narcissa and Lucius The flour referred to the colour white pointing to my username. The time of death was at night also referring to my username.
The way Narcissa was killed with a knife/sword stabbed in the back, the location and the smell of baked goods were all red herrings and an attempt to frame other guests. Lucius was a mercy kill as it would have been strange having him walking around when his wife was a ghost. You may count his death as a red herring too.
Motive Well, someone's gotta die first! I wanted to kill a person who would be around to post the clues the same day, also I might hold a small, tiny grudge against Larael for taking Lucius to the cruise and not Snape! Muahahaha!!
Richard As you know now I had no part in his death since he killed himself.
Kit informed me about his death and the plans to frame Damon but I was not aware of what clues/red herrings they would leave.
Morfindes The toilet paper she was wrapped in referred to the colour white pointing to my username. The time of deaths was also at night referring to my username.
You were already beginning to suspect White Night after Richard's death so I chose to leave only vague clues and trying to throw you off by having more red herrings. The grinning face was a random thought and I figured you would read a lot more into it than I needed to! I haven't seen the Dark Knight so I had no idea it would go that way. Diamonds Are A Girl's Best friend was to throw something in with diamonds since many of the guests mentioned their wealth or explicit love of diamonds. I wanted to have found something a little more subtle but was pressured on time. I did hope it was enough to get some new people framed though.
Motives I wanted to kill one of the quieter characters/guests who didn't post too much in order not to kill off a person whom people would want to suspect and Mrs. Haldir didn't put much in her bio.. did that make sense?? 
Concluding remarks I wanted the colour white and the time of death at nighttime to be my trademarks and recurrent clues. So TheTain was right about the time of death being important. I also wanted senses to be a theme. Narcissa saw the flour, Morfindes heard the song and I planned for the next victims to sense something too.
Thanks for the banner, Marie. 
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 10:47 am |
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I chose and alias and wrote the bio before Kit asked me to be the killer so I had to work with what I had put there when the game started!
White Night is, like a lot of you said, one of those 'typical innocent characters' and based on her bio she's 'too obvious' a killer. There are a lot of possible clues and information in my bio and I was really impressed with Sparkle's case against White Night. And although almost all of the connections she made were wrong, she ended up with a very strong case which I believe convinced many of you so I'm gonna address her case specifically:
*Sparkle wrote: The case of Narcissa and Lucius: - Lady White Knight states in her profile that she likes to shop for Ninja Stars, which happen to be these kind of things, which fit perfectly to slit someone's throat. - Flies on an umbrella, perhaps killing Narcissa was out of jealousy of her being a witch. - White Night --> a symbol for snow = flour - Lady White Night told that she lived in Darlington caste, which is mentioned in a Sherlock Holmes novel to be a smuggler's place. Since the Malfoys also stashed stolen goods in their house.. they could be comptetition? - Dislike of own cooking.. and she's eating in almost every post and telling people that the casualties could die of having eaten too much.
The case of Richard: - She likes to : "sneaking around stealthily in the twilight, dancing gracefully in the moonlight" -->could be Twilight references. - Wine from California/Italy points to Lady White Night's passion of travelling the world.
The case of Morfinde: - Morfinde was lady in waiting to become Queen of Lothlorien. Lady White Night's usual banners picture Arwen. Morfinde--> Lotholorien--> Arwen banner. - Wrapping in toilet paper --> mummies --> Egypt points to Lady White Night's passion of travelling the world and dislikes spiders: Shelob kind of wrapping people up. - Joker face --> Batman the Dark Knight --> reference to Lady White Night. - Lady White Night states in her profile that she loves to buy burlesque outfits. The song Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend, that was hummed by the killer, is from the movie Gentlemen prefer Blondes and on the cover of the movie both lead actresses are pictured in burlesque outfits.
Sidenotes: - Lady White Night is the typical innocent character, who would not be suspected. - On the point of being to obvious (since she probably killed her husband); I think that Lady White Night's too obvious profile, could also provide her with a shield of not being suspected, because she is so obvious. (Am I still making sense? ) - Lady White Night had made some very suspicious, but inconspicuous remarks:
"White Night trailed off as her interest was soon captured by the circus made up of the mingling crowd whose individuals more of less managed to conceal their joy, shock or horror. Taking in the colourful scene being acted out before her, White Night realised exactly why she had accepted the invitation to the cruise. "This will most definitely be a cruise to remember!", she muttered. "
"Unfortunately, because she was not familiar with the interior of the gigantic ship she had found herself to be.. "Well, I wouldn't say lost, just not in the place I expected!", she muttered."
" She darted to the... deck to watch the coastline fading away in the horizon. It was the twilight hour, between day and night and White Night felt an ominous shudder. "
- I thought it also to be remarkable that two death were connected to Bread and Wine. (Symbols of the body and the blood of Jesus Christ in Christianity if I'm not mistaken) - Also, the fact that Morfinde did not wake up during the mummification.
The case of Narcissa and Lucius - I tried to be careful not to make any references to ninjas or Japan since most of you know I have recently been in Japan. - I actually did consider how I should use the umbrella, maybe as a murder weapon later. - "White Nights" usually refer to the night when the midnight sun is visible all day and all night. But Wiki does have other explanations for White Nights - I never intended Darlington Castle to mean anything. It was the first thing that came to mind when I wrote up that particular post on where White Night lived and a quick google search told me it didn't exist, apparently I was mistaken. 
The case of Richard Like I said, I wrote up the bio before Kit asked me to be the murderer so I put in the 'dancing in the twilight'-part to possibly confuse people if any Twilight refernces came up. Also, it refers to my Hallowfest-character last year Eä, the dancer. I had actually thought of making a clue to my travelling but I would have liked to be able to control it more. 
The case of Morfindes - I didn't kill Morfindes based on her character. - I never thought of mummies, though it's so obvious. I just wanted to toiletpaper someone! The Shelob and Joker connections are quite clever! - Good job on researching on the cover to Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. I didn't know all of the background history of the song before I had to look it up after the murder!
Sidenotes Again very good job. I didn't think anyone would go back to find my exact quotes. And yes, I was going for the typical innocent character who wouldn't be suspected and also playing on the obvious - just like most of you! 
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 11:27 am |
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As for evaluation...
I think it was a nice change that you figured out the killer this time!
I am sorry for not having the time I could have wanted to this week. School and work ended up claiming more of my time and energy than expected.
Richard's death
On the case of Richard's suicide. Kit informed me of the plan and asked me if I approved of it, and I did. I have cried out for the possibility for more than one killer for the past two years and I like that the Hallowfest is interactive. I considered the suicide to count as one big red herring.
When I look back on it I'm not sure whether I actually liked the turn of events but that is, after all, what roleplaying is about - interaction. On the other hand, it also depends on what you stress the most in the Hallowfest: the murder mystery and the fair game, or the roleplay event.
Time zones
A challenge for me was the unruly time zones. It was difficult to plan the murders with Kit and most of the discussion of the clues happened when I had left for the night. When it is relatively random how clues are percieved it would have been nice to participate in the discussions and possibly acting on them faster. But that is the ways things are and there is nothing really to say about it.
Now what?
It is important to remember that Hallowfest is an interactive event after all. All the participants are equally responsible for the success of the event. Every Hallowfest will be different but especially when we are so few participating guests a lot more depends on each of us to make it a great event. Perhaps we need to make small adjustments that fit the current circumstances.
Hallowfest is overwhelmingly time-consuming for regular guests (and more so since we're all growing up and becoming super important and busy out there in RL  ) and for one person to facilitate and plan everything - even if it is an amazing person as Kit - is a lot of work.
Where do we go from here?
As for coordinated activities I think they are an important part of keeping things together. This year people sort of split up into smaller roleplays within the frame of the Hallowfest and interacted with the people who happened to be on at the same time.
An idea for next time might be to have a RP-manager who would be in charge of facilitating the coordinated activities in coorporation with Kit.
We might start planning the event earlier to involve more members and build up the anticipation and excitement, much like the Return of the Rings. It could be done by involving more members beforehand for example in brainstorming what kinds of in-roleplays we would like to see in the event. And maybe put up threads so people could post outfits for their characters and small backstories.
Or trying to possibly fit the contests into the roleplay so for example while the pumpkin-carving contest is running in the Contest section the person in charge of it could facilitate a similar contest in the Hallowfest-thread.
The killer might even be chosen from application. Like people might write up a loose plot and means of killing and think up a more complete backstory in advance. Then Kit would chose her killer among them. That way the murders would actually fit into a puzzle instead of being more or less random, isolated events. It might add some new flavour to the Hallowfest since a lot of you guys have become real experts in how the things run.
I has been interesting to read everyone's comments and I'm looking forward to the next murder mystery event whenever it will be! 
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 11:55 am |
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Lady White Night wrote: I chose and alias and wrote the bio before Kit asked me to be the killer so I had to work with what I had put there when the game started!
White Night is, like a lot of you said, one of those 'typical innocent characters' and based on her bio she's 'too obvious' a killer. There are a lot of possible clues and information in my bio and I was really impressed with Sparkle's case against White Night. And although almost all of the connections she made were wrong, she ended up with a very strong case which I believe convinced many of you so I'm gonna address her case specifically: The case of Narcissa and Lucius - I tried to be careful not to make any references to ninjas or Japan since most of you know I have recently been in Japan. - I actually did consider how I should use the umbrella, maybe as a murder weapon later. - "White Nights" usually refer to the night when the midnight sun is visible all day and all night. But Wiki does have other explanations for White Nights - I never intended Darlington Castle to mean anything. It was the first thing that came to mind when I wrote up that particular post on where White Night lived and a quick google search told me it didn't exist, apparently I was mistaken. 
The case of Richard Like I said, I wrote up the bio before Kit asked me to be the murderer so I put in the 'dancing in the twilight'-part to possibly confuse people if any Twilight refernces came up. Also, it refers to my Hallowfest-character last year Eä, the dancer. I had actually thought of making a clue to my travelling but I would have liked to be able to control it more. 
The case of Morfindes - I didn't kill Morfindes based on her character. - I never thought of mummies, though it's so obvious. I just wanted to toiletpaper someone! The Shelob and Joker connections are quite clever! - Good job on researching on the cover to Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. I didn't know all of the background history of the song before I had to look it up after the murder!
Sidenotes Again very good job. I didn't think anyone would go back to find my exact quotes. And yes, I was going for the typical innocent character who wouldn't be suspected and also playing on the obvious - just like most of you! 
It's just too weird that like more than half of the clues did kind of point to you, but were not meant to be clues. The Dark Knight thing and the burlesque clothing just happened to be coincidences!
And I looked up your posts because I wanted to see whether you held a grudge against Narcissa, which could have been mentioned in the roleplay. When you mentioned that you were on the cruise 'for a certain reason', I became suspicious and decided to reread all your posts..
Just out of curiosity, what kind of omnious shudder did you feel in the twilight? I actually considered that you were a werewolf kind of type, or that's what that sentence made me think of..
@ HH, yeah, that would be pretty cool!  Too bad it again didn't work out between the HH and Sparkle. Perhaps they should go as a couple next year.. 
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 12:09 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 2:44 pm |
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*Sparkle wrote: Actually, I think it does matter. By staging another murder, while Richard and Damon both actually knew that it was just fake, they both had extra information, of which the other guests were ignorant. Like I already said, it undermines the whole concept that EVERYONE is provided with the SAME amount of information, to make the game fair and fun. I mean, what use did the votings have, if two persons already knew that Damon was not the murderer? Nothing. The voting system was pointless. I think that Kit has to decide what are red herrings and clues, and if Kit is too busy, than it would depend on a person who she chose as her accomplice.
Woah. Just tried to log in as Damon.  How did we have extra information? Sure, it was our fake information, but we didn't use it to our advantage because I don't think either of us voted the last time. (We hadn't come up with the idea by the first vote.) Once Richard was dead, I think I stopped posting, and Richard didn't post, either. I know, it was probably a stupid plan, but I'm glad that we got Kit and Lady White Night's permission, and it obviously won't happen again next year.
Thanks for the write up, Lady White Night! I love your idea of an "application" to be the killer. I would actually love to be the killer some time! And now everyone will automatically suspect me for next year. 
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 3:44 pm |
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I think what Sparkle means, with you both knowing that neither of you were the killers, whether you didn't vote or not, you still knew a lot more than anyone else, save Kit and LWK. As you said, you both hardly posted at all after Richard's death, which again, is a shame, because you were both guests who should have been working with everyone else to solve the mystery. The same with the voting. Because you knew all the clues regarding Richard's death were fake, aqnd yet you didn't know who the real killer was so you couldn't really contribute to any discussions without really confusing people.
I'm all up for Kit to decide there should be more than one murderer, but I think the phrase "We hadn't come up with the idea by the first vote" doesn't really sound like it was the best planned event in the world.
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 4:48 pm |
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Oddly enough I wasn't going to roleplay as Narcissa originally until JF made me my lovely Lucius banner for my birthday recently [and I was short on time to come up with an alias]. Interesting that a slight grudge was created there without my intention.  Should've brought Snape . . .
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 4:56 pm |
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I still think the suicide was a clever idea. Richard and Damon knew they weren't the murderers, but that just comes with the territory of having close friends working together. Ammy and I knew that neither of us were the killers, and yet I still managed to convince at least half of the people at one point that she was. They passed it by Kit and LWN, and neither of them had a problem with it. It actually sort of reminds me of the year Nurr killed herself so no one would think she was the murderer. In the long run, the Hallowfest is just red herrings left and right.
Also, LWN, it's funny how people overanalyzed the clues and they found roundabouts ways of them all pointing to you, even though you yourself only thought of they connected to you in small ways. I think that's brilliant.
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 4:58 pm |
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I didn't post mainly because I didn't really want to, not because of the plan. I'm really REALLY bad at analyzing clues and going in depth with things like that, so that's why I didn't try to figure everything out. My decision to stop posting as much also was because I'm horrible at RPing and making small talk (as was obvious), so I didn't know what to say.  Richard and I didn't actually tell each other that we weren't the killers; I think we just sort of assumed it!  In that sense, we still would have know the other wasn't the killer, even if the plan hadn't been played out.
I completely agree; the suicide thing wasn't very well planned out! It was completely spur of the moment and was born out of our random conversations, as I'm sure you've seen scattered around this site.  Again, I didn't know that there was a rule against participants playing a part in the murders (which is why we checked with Kit), and I understand why some of you don't like how that turned out. Now we know better. 
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 5:27 pm |
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I'm ambivalent about the suicide. We guessed the killer anyway, although I'll admit the extra death was a little confusing at first [along with all the subsequent clues]. Now that suicide has been done once though I don't think it can be done again.
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 5:42 pm |
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*Sparkle wrote: It's just too weird that like more than half of the clues did kind of point to you, but were not meant to be clues. The Dark Knight thing and the burlesque clothing just happened to be coincidences!  And I looked up your posts because I wanted to see whether you held a grudge against Narcissa, which could have been mentioned in the roleplay. When you mentioned that you were on the cruise 'for a certain reason', I became suspicious and decided to reread all your posts..  Just out of curiosity, what kind of omnious shudder did you feel in the twilight? I actually considered that you were a werewolf kind of type, or that's what that sentence made me think of..
Yes indeed, a lot of it just happened to be coincidences.. a lot like real life actually!
And the interesting thing is that the points and clues you and other people brought up were something I had actually thought about using somehow - just never got around to it!
You are quoting from my earlier posts which were all part of establishing White Night as 'just one among the rest of the Hallow-freaks'. When White Night felt an ominous shudder it was most of all an ironic comment referring to the events we all knew were going to happen. You may see the mentioning of twilight as a reference to my bio, but I found the twilight hour to be more interesting than having it being 3 in the afternoon. I didn't mean to use any real Twilight clues so I didn't think it would come back and haunt me later on!
Oh and by the way, White Night doesn't fly on the umbrella like witches do. She floats under it Mary Poppins-style! She is human - just one of those extraordinarily ordinary people!
Larael:: Had you brought Snape instead you probably wouldn't have died. Although, it is a gorgeous Lucius banner!
Tar:: Yeah, I found it really interesting how you were so eager to frame Ammy! It was almost suspicius. But her character was almost too easy to frame with all the delicious info she provided. And she played Marie so well.
I'm gonna have to change back soon.. having everyone referring to me as Lady White Night is so confusing. 
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 6:05 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2010, 10:39 pm |
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You know... The Joker-face-thing was something that made me go "OMW. It's OBVIOULSY a LWN clue. Y'know. Dark Knight. White Night. It's so obvious it's too obvious. Obviously."
So, the fact that A. It was you. And B. The cle had nothing to do with that...it all makes me feel rather clueless. xD
Love the explanations though! Brilliant. 
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