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I don't think Hitler would have listened to his mistress... I also think he wouldn't have cared for his children if he had had some, he was just too ignorant and brutal.

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Well that happens when you addopt the world of ideals like that, but I don`t think Hitler was really a madman until his last days surely he could have been fustrated and done unforgivable things, but he sure as hell would have had some humanity in him left to care for his own blood? Besides he might have thought that his son would be the rightful heir of his place not Göring

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Yes, if his child had thought the same way as Hitler did then he would really have cared for him, but if his child had been against some or all of his ideas I think he would have treated him very badly.

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Fíriel_18190 wrote:
Yes, if his child had thought the same way as Hitler did then he would really have cared for him, but if his child had been against some or all of his ideas I think he would have treated him very badly.


Well the thing is that his son would have been raised to believe in these ideals and that the world before his fathers empire was a terrible place and his fathers truths are the only truths. Children know nothing so they can be raised as we want, cruel, but possible.... but perhaps he could have disagreed... and so on

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Yes... however I don't think Hitler had a child. I can't remember seing this in der Untergang. I'm pretty sure that it were Goebbels children...

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I think you all are right in the sense that his mistress wouldn't make too much impact, and he would have been brutal with his children must likely, seeing as how he was not treated well as a child. The main reason why he was against the Jewish population was because he grew up in socities that where anti-Jewish and they thought they did evil witchcraft and that had a major impact since he grew up in those ideas.

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Perhaps, if he had had children --- I would doubtful that Hitler maybe perhaps wouldn't have given them much affection. They were his children. His heirs.

That's it.

So perhaps, in reality --- the children, feeling neglected --- may have developed opinions of their father, which leads to other opinions, which leads to other opinions, which leads to going against his ideals.

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Yes... however I don't think Hitler had a child. I can't remember seing this in der Untergang. I'm pretty sure that it were Goebbels children...


nope, he never did

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Perhaps, if he had had children --- I would doubtful that Hitler maybe perhaps wouldn't have given them much affection. They were his children. His heirs.

That's it.

So perhaps, in reality --- the children, feeling neglected --- may have developed opinions of their father, which leads to other opinions, which leads to other opinions, which leads to going against his ideals.


That's an interesting idea.. I've never thought of it.. however.. I'm glad that we never had to wait for heirs of Hitler and that the other countries have defeated the Germans in 1945.

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Fíriel_18190 wrote:
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Perhaps, if he had had children --- I would doubtful that Hitler maybe perhaps wouldn't have given them much affection. They were his children. His heirs.

That's it.

So perhaps, in reality --- the children, feeling neglected --- may have developed opinions of their father, which leads to other opinions, which leads to other opinions, which leads to going against his ideals.


That's an interesting idea.. I've never thought of it.. however.. I'm glad that we never had to wait for heirs of Hitler and that the other countries have defeated the Germans in 1945.


And what about the soviets? Stalin was even worse than Hitler! But no we cannot blame the USSR or Russians for anything because they weren`t the first ones to attack poland all tough they made a pact with the Germans, not to mention invaded eastern europe?

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I don't think that Stalin was worse than Hitler... did Stalin kill all those Jews?? Sry perhaps I can't comment on this topic impartial, because I'm a German and I really hate Hitler with all the things he's done...

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Stalin and Hitler where both wrong in there ways, but to me, Hitler was worse for discriminating so brutally against a race. Though, Stalin was a communist ruler and Hitler a fascist; they are similar in the way that they both ruled by a totalitarian regim. I also think taht instead of Hitler being the one to show affection to his children, his children would have seen what their father was doing and turned against him. Though maybe, if they had been locked up from the real world tightly enough, they would have seen him as a hero. And that is true, if Hitler had not gone about the whole Holocaust thing, he would indeed be considered a hero to the German people because he brought them out of a downfall and starvation and all that.

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My opinion is that Stalin was definitely a more dangerous figure to dare get close to. Theodore Roosevelt was the only person to ever make sure Stalin was kept in line at their conferences.

Hitler may have discriminated against Jews and the handicapped, and the unneeded. But Stalin made sure you were killed for the most smallest reasons. With Stalin, you could work with him one day, be his bestest buddy --- but if he even thinks or has the slightest suspicion that you were a threat to him or conspiring against him, you're gone. There's no telling with Stalin, and that's what makes him dangerous.

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That's true Kitoky. Hitler wanted to wipe out an entire race, now that's scary. The worst part is that people actually gave in to him and when it was all over didn't admit it. He was just such a convincing speaker. But I think they are both equally "bad", they just showed it in different ways. Since both Russia and Germany where going through teribble times, the people of the country easily fell prey to communism and Fascism. When a country is desperate, it goes to drastic measures.

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Fíriel_18190 wrote:
I don't think that Stalin was worse than Hitler... did Stalin kill all those Jews?? Sry perhaps I can't comment on this topic impartial, because I'm a German and I really hate Hitler with all the things he's done...


Do you think that jews were on the only race that was brutally killed? I mean true that the jews suffered beyond imagination, but that doesn`t give us any right to forget the others that died for example in Germany & USSR (funny thing that Stalin actually had more people killed or about the same amounts)

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My opinion is that Stalin was definitely a more dangerous figure to dare get close to. Theodore Roosevelt was the only person to ever make sure Stalin was kept in line at their conferences.


Perhaps, but rather Churchill who knew that the soviets could be a bigger problem and the iron curtain is the thing that he spoke after the end of WW2

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There's no telling with Stalin, and that's what makes him dangerous.


He was stupid at one point when he managed to get rid off his highest officers leaving no true experience into the red army, he became increasingly paranoid I think(or so I have heard)

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No of course the Jews weren't the only ones... but Hitler also killed the people who trieb to resist him. For example there was a 16-year-old boy who made leaflets in which he told the truth to some Germans and he was killed for this even though he wasn't eighteen and not old enough to get a death penalty, but the Nazis said that he was very intelligent and so they were allowed to treat him like an adult.

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