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Post subject: Posted: October 8th, 2006, 6:41 pm |
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Joined: 18 September 2006 Posts: 437 Location: Lothlorien Country:
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Princess of Ithilien wrote: Let me get this straight: ARAGORN AND ARWEN ARE RELATED?!?!?!?!?!(distantly)
wow! i just noticed that!!! wow, that's a shocker, do u think they knew they were related?
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Post subject: Posted: October 8th, 2006, 11:02 pm |
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Yes, they knew they were related.
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Post subject: Posted: October 9th, 2006, 4:39 pm |
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ok... wow, hehe..........! ok..i'm done
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Post subject: Posted: October 9th, 2006, 4:56 pm |
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Joined: 19 July 2006 Posts: 6433 Location: somewhere sympathy is more than just a way of leaving
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They were so distantly related that I don't think it mattered to them. It wasn't as if they were cousins marrying each other or something. Also, I think it adds another factor to their story being the story of Beren and Luthien retold, because they were descendants of them.
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Post subject: Posted: October 9th, 2006, 5:47 pm |
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ya, they like replayed the story, to keep alive the concept of mortal meeting and marrying immortal! that would be so easy just to fall in love with an immortal, but then so hard to actually have the one you love sacrifice everything for you, talk about TRUE LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post subject: Posted: October 9th, 2006, 7:55 pm |
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Joined: 19 July 2006 Posts: 6433 Location: somewhere sympathy is more than just a way of leaving
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I think it's a very inspiring message, that even if the one you love seems to be above you, even if everyone tells them not to love you, it's only love that really matters in the end. Arwen was an Elf, and Immortal, and though Aragorn was a Numenorean, he wasn't on the same level as her. But in the end, that didn't matter because, more than anything, they loved each other. Sort of a love-conquers-all message that I find inspiring. 
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Post subject: Posted: October 10th, 2006, 5:48 pm |
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Joined: 07 October 2006 Posts: 2474 Location: From the north I have come, need has driven me and I have passed the doors to the path of the M6
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Both of them are direct descendants of Beren and Luthien, Arwen through Elrond, who was summat like great grandchild of beren and Luthien and Aragorn who claims his Lineage through the line of Elendil, who stemmed from the sister of Tar Elendil, King of Numenor. Therefore they have the same origin, but they are so distant that it doesnt really matter. But they do make a nice couple, it just seems to work somehow lol.
Namarie!!!
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Post subject: Posted: October 10th, 2006, 9:03 pm |
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Joined: 18 September 2006 Posts: 437 Location: Lothlorien Country:
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i guess... lol
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Post subject: Posted: October 11th, 2006, 1:17 pm |
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Joined: 07 October 2006 Posts: 2474 Location: From the north I have come, need has driven me and I have passed the doors to the path of the M6
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Buzzin m8 nice to talk to you .
Namarie!!
_________________ "This is the hour of the Shire-folk, when they arise from their quiet fields to shake the towers and counsels of the Great. Who of all the Wise could have foreseen it? Or, if they are wise, why should they expect to know it, until the hour has struck? "
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Post subject: Posted: October 12th, 2006, 8:18 am |
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Maybe that's one thing that made them close; they knew the story of Beren and Luthien, and they also knew they were descendants of Beren and Luthien.. It's hard to explain so that it'd make any sense at all. Every epic story has to have at least one love story in it.. that's a thing that makes the reader feel strong emotions him/herself.. I think. And love stories are just so lovely, although they might be bittersweet like the A&A story.  I'm not really good at philosophy, hope this makes any sense to you
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Post subject: Posted: October 12th, 2006, 5:00 pm |
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Joined: 18 September 2006 Posts: 437 Location: Lothlorien Country:
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yes! i agree completly! romantic scenes always are in the best movies, a.k.a. LORD OF THE RINGS!!
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Post subject: Posted: October 12th, 2006, 5:42 pm |
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I think that all good stories must have a love interest to add emotional content, Aragorn and Arwen are just the quintessential personification of a perfect love. They seem to make a perfect pairing, a scion of kings, chieftain of the last of the true dunedain and an elven princess, the great grandchild of the most beautiful woman to grace middle earth. It seems like a fairytale romance.....
Namarie!
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Post subject: Posted: October 15th, 2006, 12:23 am |
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Joined: 19 July 2006 Posts: 6433 Location: somewhere sympathy is more than just a way of leaving
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It would seem like a fairytale, but for the end. In fairytales, it seems everyone always lives happily ever after, and while that was certainly true for Aragorn and Arwen while they were alive, their ending was mixed with much sorrow. Bittersweet is a good way to describe it. They are perfect for one another though, and destined to be together, so it's very fairytale in that way.
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Post subject: Posted: October 16th, 2006, 3:43 am |
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I agree. It seems fairytaleish, but the end makes it more.. real. If they would live happily forever after, that would be the end of a fairytale, but making a huge sacrifise just to spend a few years (or so) with each other instead of parting forever, that's very...*loses vocabulary* real. Although there are no elves or immortals of any sort in our world, the story still reflects on some things we have here. *loves the story*
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Post subject: Arwen and aragorn Posted: October 16th, 2006, 1:55 pm |
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Joined: 07 October 2006 Posts: 2474 Location: From the north I have come, need has driven me and I have passed the doors to the path of the M6
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Bittersweet is a good way to describe it but it does show that good old fashioned romance is still alive ( albeit in Middle Earth!!!  ) and also that most importantly, that Tolkien didnt write total Happily ever afters like a lot of Fantasy writers do then and nowadays lol.
Namarie!! 8) [/i]
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Post subject: Posted: October 16th, 2006, 6:07 pm |
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Joined: 19 July 2006 Posts: 6433 Location: somewhere sympathy is more than just a way of leaving
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I think the main reason Tolkien didn't write sickeningly sweet Happily Ever Afters is because he wanted us to be able to relate to his characters and thier stories, which we can. Nobosy has a perfect ending in real life, but he's also trying to tell us that some things are worth making sacrifices for, and true love is one of them. Also, as EonwesBestMate said, he shows that that old world Romance is still alive, which I, at least, miss. I love the story too.
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