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Post subject: Posted: April 14th, 2008, 11:45 pm |
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ahem, just to quickly correct you, JF, Norrie sadly wasn't the best sword fighter in PotC... Will was. tis a proven fact. anyway, I like how you phrased that... lol *mutters about Bootstrap for a while* although I still have great faith in them and their writing skills... they wrote some of the best scripts (hands down) that I have seen in any movie. 
I guess I still must say I think seeing them in a modern day world would be far more fun than being tortured by the sight of seeing them flying around in ships. And I must say if they made that I would not be watching it... I'm already not so sure about a movie only about Jack and Barbossa (although Barbossa would be cool ) although I do believe they could pull it off just fine as long as they keep it PotC-y. However, I don't think NT/PotC would be quite so pointless... *shrugs* I mean, anything PotC could never be completely pointless. Ever. Either way I guess I don't mind if the next one is in the PotC world or in modern day, as long as it's not in flying ships which most definitely are NOT the PotC world. hmmm, and with Sao Feng's charts almost anything is possible anyway... they lead to SO many worlds! so T&T really have quite a blank canvas to work with here. And they're smart. not to mention they've all said they won't do anything unless they've got a good idea for it...
yeah, but what's so different about that? Just because he's in the modern world? I mean, if the Pirates get the FoY it's the same difference... they would live til nowadays too.
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Post subject: Posted: April 15th, 2008, 10:42 am |
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I could not agree more with PD.  I would rather see a movie about a normal adventure than either one of these options, but if it is a choice between the two, I would much rather have Jack Sparrow meet Ben Gates, than meet Jules Verne.  As PD said, once Jack and Barbossa get the fountain of youth they would be alive today anyway. This would allow that cross-over to be more realistic than a sci-fi adventure.
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Post subject: Posted: April 15th, 2008, 10:42 am |
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I could not agree more with PD.  I would rather see a movie about a normal adventure than either one of these options, but if it is a choice between the two, I would much rather have Jack Sparrow meet Ben Gates, than meet Jules Verne.  As PD said, once Jack and Barbossa get the fountain of youth they would be alive today anyway. This would allow that cross-over to be more realistic than a sci-fi adventure.
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Post subject: Posted: April 15th, 2008, 10:43 am |
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I could not agree more with PD.  I would rather see a movie about a normal adventure than either one of these options, but if it is a choice between the two, I would much rather have Jack Sparrow meet Ben Gates, than meet Jules Verne.  As PD said, once Jack and Barbossa get the fountain of youth they would be alive today anyway. This would allow that cross-over to be more realistic than a sci-fi adventure.
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Post subject: Posted: April 15th, 2008, 10:59 am |
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@ PD - Well according to my offcial POTC companions, Norrington is the best swordfighter followed by Will and then Barbossa so.... ... I'm just going by what Disney told me.
Well I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I couldn't really think of anything less POTC than it being set in the modern day world and Jack meets Ben Gates.... where's the caribbean in that? I just think for all the "funny" scenes you could have of Jack coming across modern technology, it would get stale and chessy after a while.
I've always said I could watch Jack Sparrow sitting on a stool, in an empty white room and it would be entertaining. But as much as like Jack, I would be mortified if they created a film in which he was in modern times, just so Disney can cash in on two popular film franchises - Pirates of the Caribbean and National treasure.
I would just not want them to make a film like this, just for the sake of it. I'd rather not see Jack Sparrow in a film again, than to have him placed in the modern world, or at least meeting a character from the modern world. It may sound Ok to some people, but to me and quite a few others, it sounds kooky.
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Post subject: Posted: April 15th, 2008, 11:48 am |
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I am not sure, but I believe in the COTBP commentary someone stated that Will was the best with the sword, followed by a tie between Norrington and Barbossa. I may be mistaken, but I believe I heard this on KTTC as well.
Of course both of our sources are from Disney the same company who tried to tell us that Will's curse is forever. 
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Post subject: Posted: April 15th, 2008, 2:44 pm |
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Hmm, I have quite a few PotC companions as well... granted it's been a while since I've read them through, but I'm pretty sure I've read in several different places that Will was the best sword fighter. and then Norrington and Barbossa were tied (as Hector said). hmmm, maybe this is a time to finally pull out the CotBP commentary and see if T&T say anything? Because I would go with them over whatever Disney said. After all, as Hector (or CB) said Disney is also the same company who tried to force a lot of other (decidedly retarded and untrue) things down our throats. eh, I guess I don't care either way who the best sword fighter is. Norrington, Will they’re all the same to me. 
Anyway, I suppose you are right, JF... we shall have to agree to disagree on this. I mean, I can see where you're coming from and I hope you can see where we're coming from. So it's all good. Let's just hope, for the sake of everyone, Disney will do something just PotC-y and filled with adventure (because as CB said I would rather see that than either still... even though I think a NT/PotC would be fun ). That would probably make everyone happy though. 
but now I'm curious... I think I shall have to see what I can find about who the best sword fighter in PotC is... 
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Post subject: Posted: April 18th, 2008, 10:10 pm |
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I personally think if they make another one it's just going to make things worse.
The second one was not as good as the first... the third one was not as good as the second.... I see a pattern. Unless they really pick up the pace on teh fourth it is going to be a disaster in my eyes. (sorry to say that but I just dind't like the second two all that much not near as well as the first)
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Post subject: Posted: April 19th, 2008, 12:27 pm |
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In my opinion the second two Pirates films were better than the first. The plot in DMC and AWE is much deeper than the plot of COTBP. In my opinion having all the characters on different agendas makes for an interesting movie. I know many people think that the writers were just making the movies for money, but they incorporated all the plot twists and deep characters to keep the fans interested in the trilogy, well after the release in theaters.
I do agree that if the writers can not come up with a better plot than the current rumors, then we might be looking at a bad sequel. However, as JF pointed out, all sorts of strange rumors fly around when a sequel is being talked about.
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Post subject: Posted: April 19th, 2008, 11:14 pm |
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^I'm completely in agreement with Captain Barbossa here. Not to mention, after reading up and watching more for CotBP it really isn't too much different from the other two. To tell the truth, CotBP is simpler and more lighthearted in some ways, but the story and characters are still written over all with the same genius and depth. It's just not shown as much. The writers made a deeper story for DMC and AWE, they didn't want to repeat themselves and make just another CotBP, which they must be given credit for. They wanted to take the characters to new levels and they wanted to expand and show how the characters can expand to make the movies even more lovable and deep. It shows a whole new level of PotC and it's amazing to watch each character. Sometimes the arcs and twists of each character can be hard to follow which causes people to drop the movies. The writers never meant it like that, they meant it like CB said: to give something to the Pirates fans to follow, love, watch over and delve into. There's always something new to find when you watch it, which tends to be unique for movies.
but I'm sure the writers won't make a fourth Pirates unless they have a good plot... and for all we know all these rumors flying around could be a cover up for what they're really planning. You never know. But I've got good faith in what Ted Elliot and Terry Rossio can do. They know what we fans want in our Pirates movies.
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Post subject: Posted: April 29th, 2008, 2:41 pm |
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Well spoke, PD! *applauds* I agree. With all these rumours flying about, it gets a little confusing. But I'm sure when there's official news, it'll be everywhere. If there's to be a fourth, I'm sure it will be good, as it is still Ted & Terry. I have the utmost of faith in them.
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Post subject: Posted: April 30th, 2008, 3:35 pm |
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They always do make a great script. The fourth one will be good no matter who is in it, as long as those two are the writers. 
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Post subject: Posted: April 30th, 2008, 3:39 pm |
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That is very true.  Those two make a brilliant combination. I don't think the story could possibly go badly as long as they're writing it.
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Post subject: Posted: April 30th, 2008, 10:02 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: April 30th, 2008, 10:34 pm |
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lol Hey PD!
It's so true! I usually avoid action/adventure like the plague because typically, it's incredibly shallow. It's so rare to get a good plot along with the action/adventure. I've noticed that in a lot of their works, The Mask of Zorro and National Treasure, for instance.
Whatever they decide on will be good enough for me.  I have enough confidence in them to be able to hold out and wait for whatever they do.
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