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Post subject:  Posted: March 22nd, 2009, 12:10 pm |
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Wow...that episode was pretty much made of awesome.
Young Ben! I can't wait to see more of him! (That actor is amazing, by the way. He acts just like Michael Emerson...)
Sayid is back!  I'm just really, really worried that he's going to be the one who dies, particularly because of the promo for next week.  If I had to trust someone to fix it, though, it'd be Sawyer. So we'll see.
[bwaha. Isn't that ironic? Now it's Sawyer's job to fix things...when Jack was obsessed with fixing things...haha!]
Speaking of which. Sawyer and Jack's little talk was EPIC. I was practically giving him a standing ovation when he told Jack everything he did wrong! It's about time someone said it! And dang, is this new Sawyer turning out to be amazing. A calm, contemplative leader...someone you can trust.
And I thought it was hillarious that Jack was assigned to be a 'workman'. Bwahaha.
(ooh...what if Jack meets Ben's dad?)
But agggh. Kate barely spoke this episode and I'm already sick of her. She had BETTER not mess Sawyer up. I love Sawyer and Juliet! If they don't stay together...blargh.
But I can't wait to see how everyone reacts when they figure out that Sawyer and Juliet are together.
(This is kind of random, but, when Amy suggested that they have a kid, I wondered...are they married? Because all the other Dharma couples seem to get married. (Amy/Paul, Amy/Horace.) Wait...did Amy and Horace ever say they were married? Maybe they aren't. I don't know, it doesn't really matter, but I was just wondering.)
On baby Ethan, I had suspected it would be him, given that the baby would be 27 by season 1 time. Not spectacular, but Juliet's reaction was pretty funny.
Also: Amy's suggestion that Juliet and Sawyer should have a baby? I suddenly find myself rooting for a pregnant Juliet 
Although...wouldn't it be tragically ironic if Juliet then died, the first woman on the island to die from pregnancy?
NO!!! I take it back!!
Dan needs to come back. NOW. I am suffering from both him and Desmond-withdrawl. I'm assuming Dan's working on the Orchid or in the labs or something.
Desmond...thinking about Desmond and Penny makes me remember how bloody Ben was, and makes em scared. They had better be okay. And little Charlie, too.
Haha speaking of little Charlie, my family totally jumped on the wagon for the baby-Charlie-grows-up-to-be-OUR-Charlie theory of insanity. I refuse to even recognize this as a credible theory, but whatever. It's just silly. 
Speaking of which...well, kind of...where are you guys on the idea that the past can be changed? Is everything that our Losties do in '77 just a part of what already happened? Or are they changing the past? I'm voting for Dan's whatever-happened-happened theory. I just think the idea that you can't change anything that happens is really cool. Plus, it would explain Ethan's birth. If Sawyer and Juliet weren't there originally to save Amy, how was Ethan ever born?
But then I'm reminded of my theory that the Losties are there to fight in the Others/Dharma war, and if they can't change the outcome, what point would there be in sending them back?
Maybe...an incident will allow the past to be changed? THE incident, perhaps?
Oh no. If the incident happens at the end of this season, then...then everyone in Dharma is in extreme peril right now.
Also: I realized this the other night. Remember the list the Others gave to Michael in Season 2? Sawyer, Jack, Kate, Hurley. The exact people who are now in the Dharam Initiative.
Except for Jin. But he was on the boat, with Sun and Sayid...and he and Sayid are also back in the past now.
Maybe being far away from the Swan's explosion is neccessary for time travel?
I don't know. I can't really make anything out of it.
But on that note...why do you guys think Sun wasn't flashed back to '77 with everyone else? And Frank, too?
And Ben?
Ugh, more main character death. I just really, really hope it's not Sayid or Juliet. I don't think they would kill Sawyer, not until the last season anyway. He is the reason for a good deal of the female viewers. 
And I don't think it could be Ben either. He's just too awesome. The wirters wouldn't really kill him unless he's outlived his usefulness on the show. Which I really doubt he has. And in any case, however Ben goes out (if he does before the series' end,) it will have to be very, very epic.
And we know Kate can't die. And I doubt Jack is going to die. I'm not getting any death vibes from Sun either. Maybe Jin will die?
Maybe that's why he wasn't on Bea's list! (okay, I'll stop my lame attempt to make that theory work.)
Ahh. I don't want Jin to die, but I REALLY don't want Sayid or Juliet to die. And I'm getting impending-doom vibes from both of them.
No! What is Desmond or Penny dies? NOOO! I don't want that to happen either!
Curse you, Lost writers!!
*sniffle* At least they can't kill Charlie again. That was awful. Ehh, I still want him to come back...
Edit: Oh no, I didn't even think about Dan. He might be the one to die.
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Post subject: Posted: March 24th, 2009, 5:44 pm |
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You know… you’re right. Young Ben’s actor does have the whole Ben Thing down just like Mr. Emerson.
I dunno what’s gonna happen this week… it looks like Sawyer has to let Sayid go and give up on him.  but then again they always have a way of manipulating promos so let’s hope that’s just it.  I really don’t want to see Sayid die.
I am really liking Sawyer this season too… though I’ve already said that. I figured Sawyer deserved me saying it twice. He’s much different from the tormented Sawyer we see in season 1 and even season 2 but he’s still really cool.
Personally, I cannot wait for the Kate-Juliet showdown that’s coming. The whole “back off” thing that was in one of the promos was awesome. Juliet will be my hero for forever.  I am so sick and tired of Kate. This season has been the worse by far.
Hmmm, I don’t think Juliet and Sawyer are married though… ‘cause I thought of that very thing several weeks ago and since then I’ve been paying attention to see if either of them are wearing a ring. From what I can tell they aren’t. Then again, perhaps they just didn’t want rings?
Oh my gosh, RA! I didn’t even think of that! but it would be ironic… though sad.
Ummm, Little Charlie grows up to be Charlie? wow. That’s pretty insane and though it seems obvious I actually never thought much about it. I do want to see more Des though. Sheesh, how many eps has it been since we saw him!?
Is the Incident the Purge though? I don’t really know how it can be… perhaps its something else. And I think that the Swan station was made to hold back something. Something quite real. (you know, with all that magnetism and such... and the button seemed quite real ) That’s was its use. And I guess I was thinking that the Incident was whatever that was holding back. Umm, you know, they were working on that station just in this last ep so maybe they end up building it for more than just what they had originally planned? Did that make any sense. I mean, Ben’s at least early 20s when he helps the Hostiles commit the Purge and right now he only seems to be 12 or 13 or so. that’s a lot of time that’ll have to pass in only a few more eps.
RA, that’s really interesting. That whole point about who was on Michael’s list. Huh.
Honestly, I don’t think Sun went back to the ‘70s ‘cause she helped Widmore. So maybe the Island really doesn’t like him and wasn’t pleased with her for helping him out. Though then it seems like the Island WOULD like Ben… hmm. Perhaps both of them are bad for the Island?
I agree. I don’t think they will kill Sawyer just because…. I mean, gosh, it’s Sawyer. and Ben… I agree. He still is way too involved in the plot and there’s SO much more about him that needs to be revealed. Personally, just like Michael Emerson, I am hoping that he will become a good guy in the end. That he will do something really huge and everyone will be like “he WAS the hero all along!”. So yeah.  even if he has to die I hope he dies a good guy. I hate it that Kate can’t die… and killing Jack would be like… killing LOST itself or something. Killing Hurley is cruel. Honestly, killing Jin or Locke is cruel too. Sheesh, they just came back from the dead more or less.  Goodness, I am really feeling bad about Sayid, Juliet and Desmond… I had totally forgotten about Desmond. though, I suppose the Island isn’t done with him. So until the Island IS he’s probably safe. I would assume. Dan is looking like a prime suspect….
I agree. It’s so close to season 6... The LAST season. It seems so mean to kill characters off right before then. Especially characters like Sayid who have been here since the start.
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Post subject: Posted: March 25th, 2009, 4:27 pm |
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Calloniel (PD) wrote: I dunno what’s gonna happen this week… it looks like Sawyer has to let Sayid go and give up on him. but then again they always have a way of manipulating promos so let’s hope that’s just it. I really don’t want to see Sayid die. Noooo... not Sayid... anyone but Sayid! ...except maybe Juliet. And Sawyer.Stuuupid Lost. They just...they can't have him die, could they? No, no, they couldn't. That's what I keep telling myself. Have you seen the sneak peeks yet? The one between Sayid and young Ben looks like the story could take a potentially interesting turn... Calloniel (PD) wrote: I am really liking Sawyer this season too… though I’ve already said that. I figured Sawyer deserved me saying it twice. He’s much different from the tormented Sawyer we see in season 1 and even season 2 but he’s still really cool. <3 My only comment  Calloniel (PD) wrote: Personally, I cannot wait for the Kate-Juliet showdown that’s coming. The whole “back off” thing that was in one of the promos was awesome. Juliet will be my hero for forever. I am so sick and tired of Kate. This season has been the worse by far. Haha YES! Go Juliet! I hope there's not too much of a showdown, honestly, because I really wish Kate wasn't that much of a threat. But...gah, I've had enough of her. I just hated when she got back to the island. Why can't SHE be exiled? Calloniel (PD) wrote: Hmmm, I don’t think Juliet and Sawyer are married though… ‘cause I thought of that very thing several weeks ago and since then I’ve been paying attention to see if either of them are wearing a ring. From what I can tell they aren’t. Then again, perhaps they just didn’t want rings? I don't know. It may be a possibility, but...yeah, I really don't think they are. Good to know I wasn't the only one thinking about it though. Calloniel (PD) wrote: Oh my gosh, RA! I didn’t even think of that! but it would be ironic… though sad. Ummm, Little Charlie grows up to be Charlie? wow. That’s pretty insane and though it seems obvious I actually never thought much about it. I do want to see more Des though. Sheesh, how many eps has it been since we saw him!? Far, far too many. I can't even remember!! Aagh, how could the writers do this to us? Calloniel (PD) wrote: Is the Incident the Purge though? I don’t really know how it can be… perhaps its something else. And I think that the Swan station was made to hold back something. Something quite real. (you know, with all that magnetism and such... and the button seemed quite real ) That’s was its use. And I guess I was thinking that the Incident was whatever that was holding back. Umm, you know, they were working on that station just in this last ep so maybe they end up building it for more than just what they had originally planned? Did that make any sense. I mean, Ben’s at least early 20s when he helps the Hostiles commit the Purge and right now he only seems to be 12 or 13 or so. that’s a lot of time that’ll have to pass in only a few more eps.  I'm an idiot. I totally saw "The Incident" and read, "The Purge." Of course they're two completely different things! Aagh, my stupid brain. Yeah, I think the Incident definitely could have something to do with the Swan...maybe while they're building it, something goes wrong? Either that or the Orchid. Which...I think Dan may be off building right now. I want to see more of him, too. Why, Lost, do you take Des and Dan from me AT THE SAME TIME?? Calloniel (PD) wrote: RA, that’s really interesting. That whole point about who was on Michael’s list. Huh. Honestly, I don’t think Sun went back to the ‘70s ‘cause she helped Widmore. So maybe the Island really doesn’t like him and wasn’t pleased with her for helping him out. Though then it seems like the Island WOULD like Ben… hmm. Perhaps both of them are bad for the Island? I'm so confused right now. It seemed like the Island would help whoever was in its favor...and Ben's arm healed! And Sun, though she may have been helping Widmore...I don't know, I just don't get the feeling that the island disowned her for that. If anything, maybe the island disowned her for leaving her kid behind. But maybe...we've all been looking at this the wrong way. Maybe not being sent back to 77 isn't a sign of disapproval from the island. Maybe, in the words of Tom, everyone who didn't flash merely has "work to do" in the present time. They just aren't supposed to go back in time... ...yet? Calloniel (PD) wrote: I agree. I don’t think they will kill Sawyer just because…. I mean, gosh, it’s Sawyer. and Ben… I agree. He still is way too involved in the plot and there’s SO much more about him that needs to be revealed. Personally, just like Michael Emerson, I am hoping that he will become a good guy in the end. That he will do something really huge and everyone will be like “he WAS the hero all along!”. So yeah. even if he has to die I hope he dies a good guy. I hate it that Kate can’t die… and killing Jack would be like… killing LOST itself or something. Killing Hurley is cruel. Honestly, killing Jin or Locke is cruel too. Sheesh, they just came back from the dead more or less. Goodness, I am really feeling bad about Sayid, Juliet and Desmond… I had totally forgotten about Desmond. though, I suppose the Island isn’t done with him. So until the Island IS he’s probably safe. I would assume. Dan is looking like a prime suspect…. I agree. It’s so close to season 6... The LAST season. It seems so mean to kill characters off right before then. Especially characters like Sayid who have been here since the start. [/color] Haha it would be epic (and oh-so Lost-like) if Ben turns out to be the ultimate good guy.
Or maybe...it will be revealed that there really is no good and evil, just a lot of mixed-up priorities and murky motivations.
AAAGH. No matter who dies this will be horrible! Why are Kate and Jack immune? Why oh why...
(And did you hear that Elizabeth Mitchell got cast on a show coming out next fall? Supposedly it's just a small role, but I'm so worried right now... ) _________________ <center> all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us
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Post subject: Posted: April 3rd, 2009, 3:41 pm |
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Well, about Whatever Happened, Happened. I had WANTED it to be an episode about Faraday… though I knew it would be Kate centered. Ugh. Well, whatever. IT was a alright ep. Not the best one that’s for sure. But it was about Kate so what can you do? I did sorta enjoy learning more about what makes Ben Ben. That was interesting. Though I felt sorta sorry for him and everything. I dunno. There’s something so heartbreaking about giving him over to Richard and junk. Also I guess learning about what exactly happened to Aaron disappointed me. I thought it would be something more grand by the way silly Kate acted before. whatever. At least we’ve learned a few more new things, I suppose. Besides that, Kate was annoying. And I’m almost ready to take back what I said about Jack getting better this season. I dunno, something about him this last episode really bothered me. Like, now he’s too Locke-ish. Not Jack-ish enough. I dunno. Lol But I was happy to see that both Jake and Skate are falling apart. I know, I am bad. But I am a passionate hater of both. They both deserve better than Kate. (I actually did chuckle a little evil chuckle when Sawyer told Kate he was helping her not for Kate but for Juliet… muahahahaha) One thing I LOVED about this episode was the Mile and Hurley convos.  those were amazing!
Now, for next week’s ep… I am SO nervous! I thought that just maybe if Little Ben made it through this ep Ben would survive. But now… gah, I hope they don’t kill him in this coming episode! It looks so amazing and yet so suspenseful!
Honestly, Sayid shooting Ben made me go like “wha-?” I mean, I sorta suspected it would happen but I had hoped Sayid would have pity on Ben when he saw how Ben’s dad treated him. I dunno. But it’s an interesting situation for me. My two favorite character seem to be out to hurt each other and use the other. Lol I don’t know who to support. I just hope the LOST writers are going somewhere with Sayid. I mean, I dunno… I loved him in He’s Our You but at the same time… he’s different. I guess what Ben put him through for those 3 or 2 or so years could change a person a lot.
Haha, I know what you mean about Dan and Des disappearing. Heck, we haven’t seen Des in over a month and Dan… well, it’s at least been, what, 3 eps?
On the Island not letting Ben and Sun come back - I’ve heard one theory that really interests me. Something about how since Ben and Sun (being maybe the baby of that one dude or something weird…) couldn’t go to the past ‘cause they were already there? I dunno. But the Island might’ve not let Ben go back to the ‘70s ‘cause he needed to be judged. You theory is very feasible too, RA. 
Personally, I don’t think Juliet OR Sawyer are gonna die. ‘Cause I’ve read a brief summery for the last episode (I think) of this season and it’s something about how Jules and Sawyer have to go to a trial of sorts in front of the Dharma people. So that means they survive to the end. And the person who dies supposedly dies a little before the end but still a few eps away. I have a sinking terrible feeling Ben is going to die. (though it seems like with Sayid shooting Little Ben they’ve already sorta tried to make you think it was Ben and junk so maybe they’ll leave him alone now lol) It’s either Faraday, Sayid or Ben, IMO. Gaaahhhhh…
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Post subject: Posted: April 14th, 2009, 2:46 pm |
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Ok.
I need to know.
Is my Ben still alive and well?
*whimpers*
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Post subject: Posted: April 14th, 2009, 4:22 pm |
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He is quite alive, JF. *hugs* Don't worry, dear, even the Lost execs aren't stupid enough to kill off a character played by Michael Emerson!
And may I say...Dead is Dead was amazing! SO much Ben...so much Smokey...and best of all Desmond and Penny are alive and well!! *cheers*
But to back up a little bit...Whatever Happened, Happened was an excellent episode as well. The title on its own was enough to make me happy, endorsing my theory that the past cannot be changed and there is only one timeline. (Phew! I was really afraid Lost was going to abandon that for a while.) And for a Kate episode it was remarkably interesting. I seriously thought Aaron had been taken from her in the grocery store, but the episode took instead the more predictable route of giving Aaron to Carole. Which is fine by me, I'm just glad to know that he's safe. And the reappearance of Cassidy was nice, too, though I wish we could've seen more of Sawyer's daughter.
Anyway...I'm trying to remember what it was I wanted to say about this episode. Was this the one where Miles and Hurley argued about time? Because that was epic. I like Miles more and more. As for Jack...I really like how Locke-like he's become, but at the same time it feels kind of weird. He's still Jack, no matter how much he waits around for the island. But his comeback to Kate--! "You never liked me..." Maybe that's why I liked this episode so much. Kate got her not-awesomeness basically shoved in her face. Jack isn't influenced by her anymore. Sawyer doesn't need her, either. She accepted his relationship with Juliet (for now.) And she finally, finally came clean about Aaron and relinquished her stolen role as his mother. AND...she came back to the island to find Claire! At last, somebody at least acknowledges the strange status of one of my favorite characters! And it's Kate, no less...
Of course, Kate still found ways to annoy me. Her immense concern over Ben somehow didn't make sense to me...after all, the past can't be changed, and Ben turns out fine, so...if we just chill he's going to be okay. I guess I wound up on the Jack/Miles side of the debate...which is weird, because it meant I opposed Sawyer and Juliet, as well as Kate.
But at the same time, you realize how even though the outcome may be the same, they way you choose to act may affect the specifics. We know, after all, that Ben was saved; but imagine how different things might have been if Jack had done the saving instead of Richard.
But then again, could anything have changed? All of these decisions had already been made.
Yes, I love this! All of the complications of a single timeline...thank you, Lost writers, for keeping it this way. _________________ <center> all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us
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Post subject: Posted: April 28th, 2009, 12:31 pm |
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Yay! Thanks for stopping by to join the craziness Ennostiel
Ah, Hurley is made of awesome, isn't he? And Sawyer's always been one of my favorites too 
(Kate not so much, but that's another story )
Ack I can't wait for the new episode! It's tomorrow for us here...  YAY DAN! _________________ <center> all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us
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Post subject: Posted: April 28th, 2009, 6:27 pm |
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THANKFULLY Ben is still alive… there for a while I thought I was gonna have a heartattack. His judgment episode was rather intense… I dunno how well he’s gonna do with the rules Smokey laid down for him, but at least I don't think he'll be the one to die now.
I don’t even need to say my thoughts on Dead Is Dead… ok, maybe I do. Lol IT WAS THE BEST LOST EP OF THE SEASON! Actually it was one of my favorite eps of all 5 seasons. Totally epic. Loved seeing the emotional side of Ben. and I loved learning more about Smokey.
RA, I pretty much agree with all that you said about Whatever Happened, Happened. Though it wasn’t a favorite episode of mine I have to admit that, for a Kate ep, it was ok. At least it was interesting. Lol
And Miles… that guy is amazing!  I didn’t like him much last season but now he’s really growing on me. especially in Some Like It Hoth… the Miles and Hurley parts pwned! It’s almost like the Hurley and Charlie pairing only… not. But still awesome.
I have been so… I dunno, confused lately. So they weren’t suppose to return to the Island? That’s what Faraday says? Now who’s lying? Faraday or Eloise and Ben? Hmmm. Lol I dunno. But why would Eloise and Ben need them to return? Perhaps Sayid’s feeling that all of it was pointless was legit and not just him being difficult. But here Dan goes spilling the beans all over the place? Telling Miles’ dad that they’re from the future. Why? I mean, besides the obvious. What the heck is going on with Faraday? and why weren’t Jack and the rest meant to come back? I mean, call me brainwashed, but… that’s what they had to do. They had to. They’ve told us that they had to for so so long and now… they’re saying that’s a lie? I cannot wait for the new episode tomorrow!  I think last week's break was the calm before the storm... these last 4 eps are gonna be something else. More Faraday and more on Desmond in this coming episode at least! I guess it's suppose to be something like a companion episode to The Constant. It looks like Penny gets a visit from the mysterious Eloise… perhaps trying to convince her to return to the Island with Desmond? But why? And in the promotional images for The Incident is that Jack and… Christian operating on someone? is that a flashback or what? and what is up with Ilana (sp?) and that other dude? They’re really freaking me out. There’s waaayyyy more to them then just innocent passengers on flight 316. Poor Frank… getting all caught up in this madness. but now… here’s the question… who dies? I’ve heard that it’s not gonna be so many people that… who WILL it be? for a while I thought it’d be Sayid and then Hurley (as cruel as that is ) and now… I’m thinking it’ll be Faraday. But why?
And, you know, I dunno if I’ve already said this but I’ll say it again… Jack is confusing me. I mean, I disliked him for the first, oh, 4 seasons, but now in this season he’s sorta cool. But now with him trying to play Locke he’s annoying me again…. Perhaps it’s cause he’s not enough like Jack which annoyed me in the first place. I just don’t understand you, Jack!
Enno! At last!  good to see ya here! What did you just call Lost… an unhealthy obsession? no, no, dear, loving Lost is very healthy.
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Post subject: Posted: April 28th, 2009, 7:21 pm |
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Castaway the Chameleon wrote: [color=burlywood]And Miles… that guy is amazing! I didn’t like him much last season but now he’s really growing on me. especially in Some Like It Hoth… the Miles and Hurley parts pwned! It’s almost like the Hurley and Charlie pairing only… not. But still awesome. That's actually exactly what I was thinking of the whole episode. It reminded me so much of Hurley and Charlie, particularly with the Dharma van.  Miles is obviously not like Charlie (but he's still awesome! I'm really starting to love Miles,) but the situation had a similar feel to it. I dunno. Now I'm all sad and stuff. Castaway the Chameleon wrote: [color=burlywood]I have been so… I dunno, confused lately. So they weren’t suppose to return to the Island? That’s what Faraday says? Now who’s lying? Faraday or Eloise and Ben? Hmmm. Lol I dunno. But why would Eloise and Ben need them to return? Perhaps Sayid’s feeling that all of it was pointless was legit and not just him being difficult. But here Dan goes spilling the beans all over the place? Telling Miles’ dad that they’re from the future. Why? I mean, besides the obvious. What the heck is going on with Faraday? and why weren’t Jack and the rest meant to come back? I mean, call me brainwashed, but… that’s what they had to do. They had to. They’ve told us that they had to for so so long and now… they’re saying that’s a lie? That's been bugging me for a while now...as soon as we saw the flashes stopping when Locke left the island, way back in...I guess it was LaFlaur...I was like: so why do the oceanic 6 have to come back now? I thought that maybe they were the island's 'constants' or something, and that the island needed them to stop the flashing. But it didn't. I find myself entirely on Juliet's side: They didn't need to be saved. No, I think the oceanic 6 had to come back for a different reason: the island wants to use them, perhaps in the coming war? But it had absolutely nothing to do with their friends. If it comes down to Ben and Eloise versus Dan on trustworthiness, Dan is going to win big time. We've seen how he has toruble lying before. And, I don't know, maybe I'm biased because I love him so much, but he seems to have truly good intentions. Ms. Hawking is much more enigmatic and confusing, ans I wouldn't put lying to Jack above her if it gets done what she wants done. If she is the 'Ellie' of the 50s, she seems very tough. And Ben! God knows we all love Ben, but honestly, he's not somebody you can trust to be truthful. Castaway the Chameleon wrote: [color=burlywood]I cannot wait for the new episode tomorrow! I think last week's break was the calm before the storm... these last 4 eps are gonna be something else. More Faraday and more on Desmond in this coming episode at least! I guess it's suppose to be something like a companion episode to The Constant. It looks like Penny gets a visit from the mysterious Eloise… perhaps trying to convince her to return to the Island with Desmond? But why? And in the promotional images for The Incident is that Jack and… Christian operating on someone? is that a flashback or what? and what is up with Ilana (sp?) and that other dude? They’re really freaking me out. There’s waaayyyy more to them then just innocent passengers on flight 316. Poor Frank… getting all caught up in this madness. but now… here’s the question… who dies? I’ve heard that it’s not gonna be so many people that… who WILL it be? for a while I thought it’d be Sayid and then Hurley (as cruel as that is ) and now… I’m thinking it’ll be Faraday. But why? (1) I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS EPISODE EITHER!! It's called The Variable! Which sounds awesome and sicence-y! Probably similar to the Constant! And it's DAN-CENTRIC! Hooray! (2) Ah, Dan and Des. Back at last. *smiles* (3) I saw those images, with Jack and Christian! And I admit: my first thought was, oh no, not ANOTHER Jack flashback. (Though strangely...I realize that only one season finale has ever been Jack-centric, and that was the epic flashforward of season 3.) But...what else could it be? Christian and Jack operating on someone ON THE ILSAND? No, that's ridiculous...I think...ehhh. (4) I vote that Casear and Ilana (and Bram) are working for a re-constituted Dharma Initiative. Because it doesn't seem like they're working for either Ben or Widmore, so, I don't know. And they appear to have island-ish connections. *shrugs* We'll see soon enough, in all honesty I'm not too concerned about them. (5) Okay...here is my say on who dies: For a while I thought it could be Juliet. And it still very well could be, but I'm really hoping not. Some suggest it might be Sawyer, but I still believe that while Sawyer will probably die in the end, it won't be until THE end. He has too many fans. Other possibilities include Sayid, (where IS he, anyway?) who is on the run and just tried to kill kid-Ben, Miles, who is getting dangerously close to his baby self, and Daniel, who I reallyreally don't want to die but there may be a real possibility. All of these ideas seriously upset me. Bleh, Lost writers. Bleh. Castaway the Chameleon wrote: [color=burlywood]And, you know, I dunno if I’ve already said this but I’ll say it again… Jack is confusing me. I mean, I disliked him for the first, oh, 4 seasons, but now in this season he’s sorta cool. But now with him trying to play Locke he’s annoying me again…. Perhaps it’s cause he’s not enough like Jack which annoyed me in the first place. I just don’t understand you, Jack! HA! I love that: Oh, 4 seasons... Obviously I feel very much the same. I liked it when he sounded more Locke-like, though it definitely felt like (a) the show was missing something (though I didn't personally miss that something) and (b) Jack makes a lame Locke-substitute. But THEN Jack went all anti-subtle on Roger and incurred my wrath once more. So, whatever. _________________ <center> all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us
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~RinielAranel~ wrote: No, I think the oceanic 6 had to come back for a different reason: the island wants to use them, perhaps in the coming war? But it had absolutely nothing to do with their friends. If it comes down to Ben and Eloise versus Dan on trustworthiness, Dan is going to win big time. We've seen how he has toruble lying before. And, I don't know, maybe I'm biased because I love him so much, but he seems to have truly good intentions. Ms. Hawking is much more enigmatic and confusing, ans I wouldn't put lying to Jack above her if it gets done what she wants done. If she is the 'Ellie' of the 50s, she seems very tough. And Ben! God knows we all love Ben, but honestly, he's not somebody you can trust to be truthful.
Yeah, I totally agree. that’s the only real explanation. Besides the fact that Locke was told that he’d have to get them back… er, was he? Or did he just think that’s what he had to do? Either way, maybe they came back because he talked them into it because he thought that was the only way to help the island and those still on it. *shrugs* I mean, how did he know what was going on with Sawyer, Juliet & Co. after he left? For all he knew they were continuing to flash through time. So who knows. Haha, well, Eloise IS the Ellie from the 50s… I sorta figured that from the start. And honestly… she is not a nice lady. At least I don’t think so. And I’m seriously starting to think that she and widmore are up to something. I think they might even know more than Ben… after all they are older and were on the Island for longer. but they just seem… I dunno what’s going on. Eloise pushing Dan and practically making him go back to the Island just to… kill him? it’s insane! And then Widmore being Dan’s dad… hehe, I called that quite a few episodes ago! That would make Penny and Dan the equivalent of Jack and Claire, no? Very cool. But I must say last night’s ep was… confusing and sorta saddening. Like a slap in the face for some reason. For more than just Dan’s death. Of course that was… gaahhh, that was hard. I hadn’t realized how much I had grown to like the guy. And to have him just die… I dunno. Why couldn’t it have been Kate?! And now they’re saying that they CAN change the future. Not the past, but the future? I really hope they don’t go that direction with the series. Where they undo everything. No, no. That would not be good.  That… gah, that would ruin everything. If they made it so that nothing ever happened. I mean, then they would’ve never met and… I mean, really Sawyer, Kate, Hurley and even Charlie and Claire and people like Rose even were seriously impacted and helped by that crash. Locke too. and they were all changed for the better. I don’t THINK they’ll do anything silly like that… but there’s always a part of you that… gah. I don’t think Jack and Kate are smart enough to figure out all that’s in Dan’s notebook. perhaps Dan’s death will actually be, in the long run, what CAUSES all those events to take place. That would be ironic. It’s already sorta ironic that Dan died trying to save Charlotte (which is what I think his real motivation was in it all). It was definitely a… sad (for lack of a better word right now) episode. It was good to learn more about Dan… and to see that Des is ok. But… where are they going with this?
Poor, poor Dan. And who I feel the worst for are people who sorta became Dan fans after Charlie passed. I mean, I myself have 4 charries I liked better than him, but for you guys. I am so sorry. Poor Dan! *huggles* After he got shot and we saw it was Ellie I was just sorta stunned... 
RA, haha, good to know I’m not the only one who’s getting confusing/mixed messages from Jack. _________________ Chase a couple hearts, we could leave 'em in shreds
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Post subject: Posted: April 30th, 2009, 11:25 pm |
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Daaaannn, noo....
*sighsobthing* pretty much. No, I loved him SO MUCH! I really realized that this episode, when he finally came back...he is just so entirely made of awesome...and...and then...
FAIL, Lost writers. Fail.
Ahh. I know, PD, it does seem like Charlie and Dan attract a lot of the same people. Including myself. Why, Lost??
Maybe in the near future I'll be able to analyze the whole episode and stuff but right now I'm just kind of shocked. _________________ <center> all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us
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I am one of those people PD.
Both my rockstar and my genius are gone. *cries*
I am only sane from the naive hope that neither of them are really gone.
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Post subject: Posted: May 3rd, 2009, 12:29 am |
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God, I know, it was terrible.
And...you could feel it was coming, and yet you were hoping so fervently...
NOOO.
I know, I've heard the same thing - even that a death "on the level of Charlie" as far as difficulty to accept is coming up in the finale.
What the heck?? After already taking Dan from us, which is the worst death since Charlie anyway?
I understand the need for certain characters to be sacrificed, but...why is it always the ones that I love?
And just as he got back, too.
*takes plushie and cries*
Haha thanks PD, for the thoughts and sympathies. The death really was hard on everyone, I think. How could you not love Dan? _________________ <center> all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us
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