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well, i think you can probably guess how i feel about the result, but now that i'm a little more reasonable...

i still don't like keith. sure he can sing, but a good voice simply isn't enough. he can't dance, can't act, has no stage presence, and has terrible diction. plus, he appears to have had a charisma bypass. i'm sure he's a nice guy, he just seems a little dull. i'd have been mightily disappointed seeing him as joseph.

i didn't like lewis until last week, when he totally won me over with 'oh what a circus' and 'i dreamed a dream'. he's certainly a performer, and in a few years, when he's a little more experienced, i'd be happy to pay to see him in the west end.

and lee...what can i say? i don't know 'new york new york' all that well, so i can't comment on the points you made, but to me it sounded perfect. he deserved to win and not just because he's been on stage before. he has the best range and most versatile voice in the competition, he really gets inside the song and acts it out like nobody else, he moves round the stage very naturally, he has immense stage presence, and he comes across very well in interviews - modest, sweet, passionate, and clearly in the competition for all the right reasons. he sends shivers down my spine, and you can't ask for any more in a leading man. i've never seen a more talented performer, and i've already vowed to see everything he performs in.

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Well personally for me Keith is what "Any Dream Will Do" is all about. Never seen before talent that is given the chance to fufil the dream of starring in a West End show. Keith for me, has an excellent stage presence, and his rendition of Always on my Mind was extremely touching, and he conveyed the emotions of the song and sang the lyrics better than I have ever heard, and I have heard three versions. As for his acting, with the songs he was given, his acting was more than fine for me. I have said this for many weeks, but I would have been interested if every single Joseph, had been given 5 minutes from the show, to perform in front of the audience, so we could really see who could play the part.

I don't think Keith's diction was bad. John Barrowman's was far worse, and there are plenty of people on stage and screen who you can't really understand. That's why I curse when musical DVD's tend not to subtitle the songs.

I am disappointed that Keith did not win, but I'm glad he didn't look too upset or anything because that would have made it worse. I am confident though the offers for him will be pouring in.

*shudders* And I thank both Lords that Ben didn't win. *screams*

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Well personally for me Keith is what "Any Dream Will Do" is all about. Never seen before talent that is given the chance to fufil the dream of starring in a West End show.

i never saw that as the point of the show - i simply saw it as a chance for the public to have a say in casting a leading west end role, and a chance for the world of musical theatre to get more people interested. it should always have been about finding the best person for the job, not just fulfilling one person's dream. you can't just pluck someone out of a supermarket and put them on stage, no matter how good their voice is - there's so much more to performing, and actors/singers go through three years of training for a very good reason.

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As for his acting, with the songs he was given, his acting was more than fine for me. I have said this for many weeks, but I would have been interested if every single Joseph, had been given 5 minutes from the show, to perform in front of the audience, so we could really see who could play the part.

keith always seemed to pick one facial expression per song, then stick to it. his performances never had the subtleties that lee's did. i do agree that we should have seen them act out scenes from joseph though - at least then we coud have properly tested their acting ability and found out if keith could cover his scottish accent.

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So you are basically saying then that people like Keith and Craig, Lewis and Rob had no chance because of their background?
That they were being brought along for the ride when they never had any chance? Why not say on the auditions then - pro's only, normal people don't bother.

The show was about finding a West End leading man, but it was also about giving people an opportunity, people who would never have otherwise had the chance, a moment to shine and show people how good they are.

Next time they do a programme, I would like to see less pro's, as I think it's pretty safe to say who will win. A local newspaper round here said today, that if Lee was already in the theatre world, and with his talent had not made it past understudy, perhaps there was something to that? And is it fair to have so many pro's who have worked in the theatre before, take up the place of people who for the first time, can show people what they have to offer.

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Did you actually watch the show?

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So you are basically saying then that people like Keith and Craig, Lewis and Rob had no chance because of their background?
That they were being brought along for the ride when they never had any chance? Why not say on the auditions then - pro's only, normal people don't bother.

The show was about finding a West End leading man, but it was also about giving people an opportunity, people who would never have otherwise had the chance, a moment to shine and show people how good they are.

Next time they do a programme, I would like to see less pro's, as I think it's pretty safe to say who will win. A local newspaper round here said today, that if Lee was already in the theatre world, and with his talent had not made it past understudy, perhaps there was something to that? And is it fair to have so many pro's who have worked in the theatre before, take up the place of people who for the first time, can show people what they have to offer.

i'm not saying that a non-professional shouldn't or couldn't have won, just that the part should always have gone to the best man for the job, and the chances always were that that was going to be a pro.

the fact that lee never got past understudy is more a reflection on the idiocy of the theatre world than anything else, and bill as good as admitted that last night. the sad truth is that casting agents make mistakes - sometimes they miss the good ones (like lee) and for some inexplicable reason cast the bad ones (like the guy i saw playing raoul two years go).

and by the same token, if keith had the talent and dedication to make it in the west end, why wasn't he at drama school?

the show has given people a chance to shine that they wouldn't otherwise have had, and i'm sure it will lead on to other things for those of them that deserve it. however, i still believe that the best man won, and that's what counts.

if andrew had just wanted to make dreams come true and give people the chance to appear on a west end stage he would have chosen amateurs to do one or two shows. however, that's not what he wanted - he wanted to find a new joseph who had the strength and talent to carry a show eight times a week for an entire west end run, and in reality only a professional or an experienced amatuer could do that. like i said before - performers train because it's necessary, not just for fun.

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