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Post subject:  Posted: May 27th, 2008, 5:47 pm |
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Hmm, you'd probably be Ok with the Last Crusade, there is only once scene where Indy falls into a small cage of harmless snakes (which is how we learn, he comes to hate them). Apart from that though, there aren't any insect scenes.
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Post subject: Posted: May 27th, 2008, 6:49 pm |
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I'm going to go see this tonight, so I'll post my review as soon as I can.
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Post subject: Posted: May 28th, 2008, 1:38 pm |
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Surpsingly, I did like Mutt although I'm not sure he needed to be so different to Indy and a real 50's child, but having said that it probably worked well him being so different, so yeah, I'm Ok with that actually. 
Another thing about Indy in this film is how little he used his skills to get out of situtaions. Apart from the scene where he was in the warehouse, pretty much everything else was because of someone else or just pure luck.
He wasn't the one driving the motorbike and swerving out of danger, he was just the passenger who got into a few fisticuffs.
The chase scene, he wasn't really doing any really good stunt driving or anything, it was mainly Mutt and Marion.
The bit were the car landed in the tree... 0.o ... it was pure luck, it wasn't anything to do with Indy and the fact he is good in these sort of situations.
Apart from the warehouse scene and the fight with the Russian, he didn't really do anything typically Indy, and we know he can because we did see him earlier on. In a way the sidekick's seemed to have more to do in this film when it came to action and figuring things out.
I also think another problem is once they basically met Marion, they stayed in the same part of the word. In the other films (Crusade especially) there would be various locations but really, it was the same place for most of the film.
One of the biggest problems for me is the really long chase sequence in the jungle. There was no real break and it reminded me a lot of the sequence in many modern action films which a) go on for a long time and b) involve different characters in different fights (Van Helsing, the Mummy Returns etc etc). For other films, this works, but in Indiana Jones, most long sequences a) aren't nearly as big and b) do have breaks between them. But usually, it's and action sequence.... different scene, and then maybe another action sequence. The whole chase seemed to be something that would never have been filmed like that back in the '80's and is probably something that had to be included as action films these days do like their action packed scenes.
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Post subject: Posted: May 28th, 2008, 1:39 pm |
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Some of the people in my sunday school class went to see this last Wednesday night, when it opened. I was like, I don't want to see it enough to see it opening night, or anytime soon. I probably won't see it at all. Whenever I think about this one, I see a picture by Makani that shows old!Indy on a scooter followed by the boulder on a scooter. Makes me  .
I've seen/heard multiple people saying it was just kind of meh.
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Post subject: Posted: May 28th, 2008, 1:42 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: May 28th, 2008, 3:14 pm |
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PD, you knew he would get it back, eh?  For some reason I find that amusing. Er, but I don't like the kid Indy stuff!  Oh, I liked the son bit too. They were funny together. 
(Really? Well, well... That's surprising. 
JF, W-O-W.  That's quite a review you've got there. Very well thought out. I do believe I agree with you on all of your subjects - save the marriage at the end. I did like that part.  Of course I'd like to see more of Marion and Indy, but I suppose there wasn't quite enough time. Of course they could have cut out some of the alien nonesense, but...
Darky, can't wait to hear what you think!
Eäryendë, oh, I think you should see it.
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I really don't see how the alien stuff is 'nonsense'.
Let's look at things logically.
The Ark: Allegedly religious artifact, that melts people alive and ignores two people with there eyes closed.
The Kali Cult: High Priest that can rip out people's hearts, while said person is still alive.
The Grail: A wooden cup, guarded by a thousand year old Knight
The Indy movies are deep rooted in fantasy. Wether you like it or not, Aliens and Science Fiction goes hand in hand with that. I guess I can't speak for everyone, but when I go see a movie like Indiana Jones. I suspend my disbelief for a couple of hours and just enjoy the ride.
But I can understand sci-fi not being everyone's cuppa char.
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Post subject: Posted: May 28th, 2008, 5:59 pm |
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Er, sorry, Phoenix. "Nonesense" was the wrong word to use. I kind of liked how JF put it: "I think the alien story moved away from what Indiana Jones has essentially been about - ancient artifacts with mainly a religious theme. Supernatural yes, extra-terrestrial, no." *shrugs* You're right.. Everyone's got their "thing". Aliens in an Indy movie (well, aliens in general, I guess) isn't mine.
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*sigh*
Wow, I'm slightly dissapointed.
This was my first time seeing Indy on the big screen(being non-existant at the release of the first three), and I was very dissapointed.
A) In nineteen years, all they could come up with was SPOILER aliens? Are you serious? What, did they write the script in an hour? I'm sorry, but the other three were most def. better.
B) Harrison Ford has still got it. He was just as awesome as Indy as he was before, very well done, and the wedding scene at the end made me happy.
C) Did they have him survive a nuclear bomb just so he could go around saying "I survived a nuclear bomb and all I got was this lousy lead-lined fridge?" Anyways... I saw no point to that bit, and the first five minutes were very trivial and pointless, unless there was a throwback that I missed, I don't understand the kids racing the army vehicles.
D) What was with the not-so-excellent Russian/Ukranian accent from Cate? The other soldiers were good, but she just sounded out of place and awkward. Now, don't get me wrong, I love Cate, but what?
E) Mutt was excellent, I knew he was going to be Indy's son, and Shia was lovely. And the cafe fight was hilarious, I onyl find it funny because we did a "study" on greasers in Grade Eight...
F) Ok, when there are spider webs over ancient artifacts in a STONE CHAMBER, what do the spiders eat? The artifacts? And same thing with the people in the wall, is there a back exit where Tim Horton delivers coffee and a doughnut every morning? I don't get it.
My favorite quote has to be
Indy: "Drop dead"
Evil Russian Guy: *slaps him*
Indy: "Oh sorry, I meant drop dead comrade."
The only reason I find that funny is because I read Animal Farm last year and we did the histroy of the U.S.S.R. in Social Studies.
Other than that... meh, the first three are much MUCH better.
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Yeah, I have to kinda agree with TT there.
For me, just because Indy is an archaeologist and he admittedly goes in search of weird mystical things.... doesn't necassarily mean that his next job includes going after a supposedly ancient artifact which neither came from God or man, but aliens and not only do we learn that the alien theory is correct.... the entire lanscape gets swept away as a spaceship zooms off to a dimension between a dimensions.
There is a huge difference between suspending belief and enjoying a ride if it is in keeping with what the general theme of the film or the films predecessors. For me, aliens is not something Indy should have to deal with.
@ Darky - Me too. I've been watching Indiana Jones since I was keen-high to a flea, and this was the first time I'd seen any in the cinema as well.
Well to be honest, I really liked Cate's accent. I thought it sounded pretty authentic to me. I do like Russian accents though, so I might be biased.
To me I thought it was a mixture of cobwebs and spider webs. You can usually see a pattern with the webs of spiders whereas cobwebs are just dust and everything threaded together. Webs feature a lot in the Indy films, lol. Spiders would still be able to get out through cracks and everything I think. Ook, that was me being all technical. XD
I so agree with you about the aliens.
The fridge scene seems to annoy almost everyone. The only thinga bout that is it blends fighting with the Russians to him being interrogated by the FBI or whatever. I suppose they were looking for a linking scene... but frankly, I thought even if for Indiana Jones' standards it was a bit too much.
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Daky, very nice review. I'm sorry you were disappointed, though... I guess I went in their not expecting an awesome movie, and so I was satisfied. I still think it was a good movie, just not spectacular. 'tisn't anything compared to the first three. 
Quote: A) In nineteen years, all they could come up with was SPOILER aliens? Are you serious? What, did they write the script in an hour? I'm sorry, but the other three were most def. better.
I'm sorry, that cracked me up.
JF, you know I agree with you.
Aso, btw, I'm noticing that in your review you keep mentioning Raiders and the Last Crusade... But not Temple of Doom?  I take it you don't... er, like it? Or, is that just me noticing weird things?
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I've heard that about them originally wanting to make 5 Indy movies, JF.
hmmm, so many new long essays on Indy 4! lol but I must say, as before, I do understand some of your logic here, JF (and Darks)... I just don't agree with ALL of it. But whatever, each to her own.  (also you are more of a die-hard Indy fan than me... I'm just there for the great ride and I guess I look at it the way Phoenix described. I don't really care if it was a whole lot different from the others. It kept close enough for me to still enjoy it.)
TT, why do you find that amusing? I've never seen the kid Indy stuff so I wouldn't know. weren't they though? They just... worked! It was brilliant, I thought.
Darky, hmm, sorry to hear that. but at least it sounds like you liked some of it... and I must say that cafe fight scene was SO funny! I really enjoyed that part...
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Johnny's Fan wrote: Things I Didn't Like
Aliens. Seriously, I couldn't believe how much was do with aliens. Up until the point they entered the final temple, it was still all theory that it was to do with aliens. Some people believe Roswell was just a cover up for something worse, so the "alien" found need not necessaily have been a real alien. I could put up with the mind-reading thing, as that was mentioned in Temple of Doom. But when they put the head on the skeleton and it started to move and turned back into an alien.... frankly, it was ridiculous. And when the entire landscape got blown away (very Mummy Returns) and a flying saucer flew away..... yeeah.....
It would have been so much better, if the skull was something powerful and mysterious, like the Ark or the Grail, and yes, you could read its mind and yes it could tell you what to do, and yes, even when you placed it back in position, it could blow your mind away with it's power if you were physically charged or whatever. And yes, even the power behind it could burn people away or whatever, again like the Ark or the Grail, but not necessarily from another creature from another dimension or world or.... yeah.
I think the alien story moved away from what Indiana Jones has essentially been about - ancient artifacts with mainly a religious theme. Supernatural yes, extra-terrestrial, no.
Archaeology. I was really disappointed that basically Indy had one little tiny map thing to figure out, and everything else he had to ask Ox about. I mean... he's Indy... and he's not figuring things out himself? No Staff clues like in Raiders or Grail Diary in the Last Crusade? I was quite surprised by the lack of stuch things.
Ants. The ants were a really unecessary part of the film. Not only did they look fake, but I couldn't believe that Spielberg had included something that suited the Mummy films (the ants swarming over people where exactly like the scarabs) into Indiana Jones. Presumably he wanted another animal infestation like the other films (rats, snakes etc) but I think where they were situated didn't really fit (and just prolonged an already long scene) and the guy being dragged into the anthill... was not Indiana Jones.
Tarzan. The swinging through the vines was really quite naff. I'm not sure why he didn't just jump down and run. Or why couldn't he have just swung once to further himself. It was odd to say the least. The monkeys then attacking Cate in the car.... WTH?
1950's. I was a little bit tired of all the things they threw in, during the first 30 minutes or so to prove that it was the 50's. The reference to Marlon Brando probably just annoyed me because I hate him anyway, but there were a couple of things that I didn't think needed to be there, and just seemed to be screaming out "1957 don't forget it".
Nuclear explosion. Ok, well this was REALLY dumb. We all know about the cold war and nuclear testing and everything, there was no need to really add this to the film. I don't think for a start, locking yourself in a fridge actually on the site where a bomb has gone off, would actually save you.... but being hurled 5 miles in it and walking out of it, inscathed and not even wobbling... man, that is amazing.
You know my views on the whole alien thing, so you can probably imagine what I think of the flying saucer bit at the end, so I don't think I need to really go there. It again reminded me of the Mummy Returns where the templed sinks into itself and everything gets blown away.
I agree with everything here.
I hate to be a downer here, because I know everyone here liked the movie, but I have never been more disappointed in a film.
I mean, I was following it, and I was stoked, and seriously, I was like "omgthisisgreat." And then...the ALIENS showed up. And it completely ruined the ENTIRE movie.
Really, I have no problem with aliens normally. In fact, I love aliens. But in an Indy movie, without any attempt to make the aliens anything past a hugely stereotypical Roswell figure and an ACTUAL saucer for the spaceship...I mean, honestly.
And I also agree with JF that there were quite a few scenes that were reminiscent of The Mummy trilogy in a big way.
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(although I wish we both didn't have to be agreeing with each other, and we could just totally like it).