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MontanaBohmian,I have liked the past few episodes as well. :-D

Finaly some more PB and J (...I was really starting to miss them together...), the Jack/Claire thing really needed to be addressed so I was happy about that being cleared up.
So I was all bouncy wouncy for Sawyer with his glasses on...it's about time that they let us see that fine man with his glasses on again. :drool: Good episode. I give it two thumbs up. :-D

Another thing did it bother anyone else that they had Kate climb over the alert system first? It really kind of bother my mum and myself. I mean she was the girl. Shouldn't they have sent Mr. Clean or Sayid first? Do you think that we are suposed to think that they sent Kate first just because Mr Clean and Sayid think that Kate is the weakest link or what? okay, my partcialy rant is over...sorry.


By PB & J, do you mean Charlie and Claire? Because, I've missed them too! So lovely! :)

"Some day seizing!"
XD Charlie has the best lines! :P

I forgot to mention how much I loved Claire working with Jin and Sun!! Jin is such a doll! XD XD

And I agree, I really like Sawyer with his glasses! Although, the first time we saw him with them was the best. :P Ayn Rand....*shakes head* Ha ha ha ha!! Did anyone notice the title of the book he was reading? All I got was it was written by miss Rand....because I was too busy laughing at Sawyer. :P

And about this Jack/Claire thing...well, it's cool that they're related and all...but, wasn't it like only mentioned in passing like an interview or something? Because, watching all the episodes of this season,...sooo not mentioned.
But, they'll probably find out...one way or another. ALTHOUGH, did Sawyer ever tell Jack that he met Jack's dad? I can't remember. Hmmm....why are they all bloody connected to Jack?! ;) :P Ha ha ha!

About next week's episode...it looks exciting and all...but, Locke's story isn't one I've been waiting for. It's Locke for crying out loud. :P Sorry, I apparently tend to hold grudges against fictional characters for quite some time...*cough-24sLogan-cough* :P Ha ha ha ha! NO ONE messes with my Charlie and gets away with it. :no:

And about Kate going first...didn't she offer?
Maybe not. Whatever, my memory is failing me. :P
And she wasn't the only woman there. Ms. French Lady was there too. So, it didn't bother me that she went first.
My only concern was how they automatically knew how to stradle the damn tree to climb it. :P
They must do lots of tree stradling on this island. ;) :P
XD XD XD XD XD

AND another thing crossed my mind.
Well, Charlie MUST be marked for death. BUT, I don't think Desmond is the only one who can save him.
WHY? Well, I was thinking about when Ethan strung him up to die...he almost DID die...but then he was SAVED...*cough-Jack-cough*
SO...yeah. I would put my theory down...but I don't want to jinx anything. :P

Just a random thought...

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Banana Republic, Episode 15, aye and it may be one about Sawyer? (bouncy wouncy...happy dancing) In that case I can't wait. :bounce: Thank you a hundred times over for the information.
Okay. Well I didn't mean to offend anyone or anything. I'm sorry if I did. Also I didn't catch the part where Kate offered to go first. Sorry about that as well.
I wasn't trying to suggest that she should be put on back burner because she is a women nor that she was/is incapable of doing anything that any of the men can or have done. I definatly like to see fellow women in power on televission 100% so... (I wouldn't mind seeing Juliet step up to the place of power for the Others I might add ro give Ben a helping hand maybe... :hide: ) and that women can do pretty much anything that a man can. (In fact right before Kate went climbing in that tree I had been outside helping to carry tress simular to those Several yards away...without a man in sight. :lol:) I just didn't think that Kate should have had to climb the tree. Where I come from we are taught that a man should always put the woman first. Whatever she needs he should more than willing to give or do if he cares at all about her. Just like how Charlie is always offering to help Claire out wheither it is something that is physical such as getting water, gather food, ect or helping out with Aaron. Also that if something is dangerous that the man should risk his life for the lady...put her first. It's like on the Titantic the men shouldn't be trying to save their own lives in place of the women's...pushing them out of the life boats and such. I would have seen it differently if it had been debated over...if Kate was just dead set on going first...no room for questions. However I missed that part, so I can't see as how it was a debate or rather discussion over it all. That kind of upset me. Personaly I think that Locke should have went. I mean seeing as how he was the one who had gotten Patch killed without asking the other Losties what should be done...Patch wasn't even his prisoner after all. I really think that they should have sent him first.

MontanaBohemian, Yes, by PB and J I mean Charlie and Claire. :-D I agree with you 100%. Jin is a doll, Charlie has great lines, and I love PB and J.
Ooh, when we first saw Sawyer in his glasses...Hurly pretty well called him Harry Potter...I fell out of my chair laughing. :laugh: Though truth be told I think that he is better lookign than Harry Potter...which is saying something. ;)
Honestly? I have no idea what so ever what Sawyer was reading. I was way too busy admiring beutfiul Sawyer in his wonderful glasses. :drool: Does anybody else here have any idea what he was reading?
I don't know if they will or not but I certainly hope that you are right and that they do find out that they are half siblings. I think that it could make for some cool Claire and Jack and maybe even Clarie/Jack/Charlie/Aaron scenes. :-D
Yes, Sawyer told Jack about talking to his father. I read it in a transcript...I think that it happened in the first season..it might have been the secound one though...non the less I am 100% sure that Sawyer did tell Jack about talking to Jack's dad.
You haven't been waiting to see the Locke episode either?! I thought that I was the only one who was holding a grudge against Mr Clean who I think to be mean. I just...he makes me so mad that I am unable to see straight. After all that with Boone and Chalire and now killing Patch and...and...(deep breathes). Sorry I seem to be good at holding a grudge against him as well. Personaly speaking I'm not really looking all that forward to it. However maybe it will be worth watching..I hope so. (sighs) Well, I'm glad to see that there is somebody else that doesn't exactly like Mr. Clean. I can't help it...he makes me mad. Allright...rant over.
Hmmm, you know that is a good point...maybe they are smarter than I usaly give them creadit for. I do wonder though now that you mention it how they came up with that. I mean they climb up in tress for food all the time...maybe one of them was hungry, looked up at the tree, and got the idea to use one to get across that way... :lol:...I don't know. What I want to know is how did they get it down? Did they use the end of their guns to whack it down? Did it fall donw perfectly cut durring a past storm? Did they have an axe in that tiny back pack of Locke's? :confused:
Uh...I had nearly forgotten about that. Well, you are right Jack did save him. Maybe, that means that Charlie won't die? Do you think that all of the islanders will work together to save him?

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I wasn't trying to suggest that she should be put on back burner because she is a women nor that she was/is incapable of doing anything that any of the men can or have done. I definatly like to see fellow women in power on televission 100% so... (I wouldn't mind seeing Juliet step up to the place of power for the Others I might add ro give Ben a helping hand maybe... :hide: ) and that women can do pretty much anything that a man can. (In fact right before Kate went climbing in that tree I had been outside helping to carry tress simular to those Several yards away...without a man in sight. :lol:) I just didn't think that Kate should have had to climb the tree. Where I come from we are taught that a man should always put the woman first. Whatever she needs he should more than willing to give or do if he cares at all about her. Just like how Charlie is always offering to help Claire out wheither it is something that is physical such as getting water, gather food, ect or helping out with Aaron. Also that if something is dangerous that the man should risk his life for the lady...put her first. It's like on the Titantic the men shouldn't be trying to save their own lives in place of the women's...pushing them out of the life boats and such. I would have seen it differently if it had been debated over...if Kate was just dead set on going first...no room for questions. However I missed that part, so I can't see as how it was a debate or rather discussion over it all. That kind of upset me. Personaly I think that Locke should have went. I mean seeing as how he was the one who had gotten Patch killed without asking the other Losties what should be done...Patch wasn't even his prisoner after all. I really think that they should have sent him first.


I'm still not seeing the fact that she goes first means that the men are saving themselves. They knew that the sonic beam would only go off if they went through the beams thus they went over them. Kate would have had climb the tree anyway so it's not that big of a deal that she went first. It looks more a woman power thing to me, not the men saying ooo I'm too scared to go first send the woman, but the woman saying I'm strong enough to do this without having a man go before me and show me that it's safe.

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Banana Republic, Well, to me it would seem that it would be dangerous. It was a nice jump down from the tree to the ground and what if you were to miss your step and stumble into the alarm system? Yes, she would have had to go eventualy but her going first to me just seems as an even bigger risk. All that I am saying is that if I had been there I would not have had, Kate, myself or Danielle go first. I would have expected one of the two remaining men to step up to the plate. (shrugs) Just my opinion.
You could be right though. Perhaps it was just Kate proving that she is strong and can do anything that she puts her mind to. That is totally a possability.
I guess we shall just have to agree to disagree on this one.

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Chivalry or not, I don't think it matters who goes first.

It was her idea to go find Jack anyway...

I personally think if she wanted or needed help, she would have spoken up. She's a strong woman and can fend for herself. And I think she's proven that she doesn't really like that attitude.

And what if Sayid or Locke had gone first and they fell into this...force field thing? Does being a "knight-in-shining-armour" mean you are more expendable? And what would you have said if Ms. French Lady had gone first? She's proven just as capable, if not more than any man for 16 years...soooo....

So, I found nothing wrong with it.

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Alright, I've finally made it to the thread! I actully watched the show LAST night, but I couldn't get on until today :(

So....please don't hurt me....I didn't really like this episode :( I guess I'm the only one here who like the "Others" episodes the best...Charlie and Claire especially don't really interest me :confuzzled: Maybe if I watched season 1 I would like them better...:whistle:

I really did enjoy seeing Sawyer and his glasses though :D And Claire and Charlie were cute at the end :) I felt bad for Kate when she saw Jack playing football with the Others :( I knew it was coming (I saw a preview somewhere or something) but I still was surprised...that better get explained soon!

As for the whole Claire/Jack thing....JF, you have permission to poke me - HARD - now *hides* :teehee: LOL! I guess I knew it was coming....:D But I agree, I don't really see how Jack/Claire will ever find out =/

And about the Kate going first...personally, I agree with Montana, I really don't care :P Whatever! LOL

I think that's all I have to say for now....except next week looks great (even though Locke is my least favorite character :P)! And I really hope there's a Sawyer episode coming up! *crosses fingers* :D

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I have to apologise for the amount of quoting I'm about to do - I've a lot to catch up on and I don't want to seem rude and just miss people out...although some posts are so darn confusing for this behind-on-episodes-Brit I've had to. :P I know quoting does put some people off, but I hope y'all don't mind. :-)

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JF, Here is your recap. Charlie made Claire a pinic breakfast and had it set up where Jin and Sun would watch Aaron. However when they were about to sit down to eat Des asks Charlie to go hunting with him, Charlie says no, Claire spots some birds flying by, gets hit by an idea, and pretty well runs off. Charlie asks her waht is going on, she says that she has an idea to get them off of the island, she Charlie Jin and Sun talk about how they could catch one of the birds which would be being tracked (some of the birds had tags around their feet), Des looks on and gives that dooms day look he gives Charlie. Charlie retunrs the galre and tries to get Claire to change her mind about catching one of the birds, Claire is determined, Claire Sun and Jin try to catch a bird, Sun and Claire talked about their mothers and Claire said that her mother "was" a librianin, they go off to catch one of the birds with the help of the bait that Sun and Claire had choped up, but Des fires his gun and scares the birds away, Claire asks Des why he did that, Des claimed that he was following a boar, Claire didn't believe him, Des eventualy walks off, Claire questions Charlie about it, he says that he just doesn't want to give Claire false hope, and they have a bit of an arguement. Claire sess Des and Charlie talking on the beach, Claire asks Sun to watch Aaron for a minute, Sun agrees, and Claire tries to talk to them but really doesn't get anywhere. So later she sees Des on a rock and goes over to him, Des says to be quite and stay still, Des catches a bird and hands it to Claire, Claire asked him how he know that the bird would be there, he said that he didn't, Claire said that yes he did that he went over to it without any doubt, and he tells Claire all about his vissions and about his dooms day prediction about Charlie and how he saw Charlie slipping into the water where he had caught the bird and dying. Claire goes over to Charlie tells him that she knows it all and they sort of make up, they write a note about i(in short) about what had happened to them and asked for help...durring which they showed shots of Saywer on the beach reading and Des (in this shot she said that some had learned to accept that they might never leave the isalnd. by the way.)
In the flash backs we see a car crash, Claire's mum was hurt Very badly, she and her aunt talk about her mum, the doc comes in and ta;lks about how the machines are what is keeping her alive, they talk about money, the doc says not to worry about it that it has already been paid for but that the person who was paying asked that their name be kept secret. Then Claire's dad (who is also Jack's dad) shows up says that he is indeed the one who is paying for all of mum's medical supplies and such, Claire's aunt and Jack/Claire's dad don't exactly geehaw, Claire's dad takes Claire out for coffee later on, they have a talk about how he had come to see her when she was younger but that Claire's aunt didn't like him and that Claire's mum didn't like the fact that he had another family. he implies that Claire should let him "ease her suffering" because she is "alive but not really living" explains that turning the machines off there is against the law but that he knows ways to get around that, she gets mad, they fight, she says doens't even want to know his name and walks away. Then we see Claire talking to her unconscous mother she says that she is pregnant and says that she (Claire) is sorry for fighting with her (telling her mum that she hated her, wished she wasn't her mother, and that she was dead, and sorry that she was aweful.) she said that the accident was her fault, and that she was osrry while crying. That's the end of the flash backs.
Elsewhere Kate, Sayid, Locke, Danielle, and Patch (the eye patch guy) walked towards the communtiy (the barrocks) that was on the map Sayid found. When they stoped to get water from a stream Kate asked Danielle why she didn't ask about her daughter, Danielle explained that it was because she didn't want to know the answers since her daugher wouldn't re,mber her in shortm, and compared it to what if KAte didn't see Jack for 16 years, she also asked Kate if she cared about jack, and Kate didn't answer. They walked on again, then they found some big trap alarm system, they started talking about going around it, Patch said that it was all the way around the cummunity, Sayid checked the map and said that Patch was telling the truth, they started talking again, and Locke took Patch by the arm and pushed him through the alarm system. Well...Patch dead as a door know...kind of graphic...Sayid yelled at Locke for doing that, Locke said that nobody asked him about waht to do wtih Patch so why should he consult them about that, they fought and and Sayid told Locke that he would deal with him later. So they put choped down/fallen down trees up to the poles that were the alarm system and they climbed the tree and jumped down on the other side of the alarm system safely. However they did make Kate go first....(laughs) my mum asked what kind of men they were making her go first...(laughs) Anyway then they walked just a little ways, we see a village like place, Mr Happy and Jack playing football, and that's pretty well what happened. :-D

Banana Republic, Um what is Mr. Happy's name? Do we know that yet?


Thanks for that DD. :D It seems like a pretty neat epsiode. Some spoiler pics I saw showed Claire with black hair and looking a bit like a goth? Do we find out why she is like that?

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OH SNAP!

What an episode! That ending was SUPERBLY just like Lost! :)

I have to say, these past couple episodes make me happy. Because they are what Lost is really about! Like the first season! Amazing!

I have to say, the Jack/Claire thing; didn't surprise me as much as I would have liked. But then maybe I shouldn't bum around in this thread so much. ;) :P Ha ha ha!

I really liked this episode! I can't remember who said it a while back, but they got it right. It's back to the heart of what Lost is about. The people. Still shocking and crazy....but yeah. Hard to explain myself.

Gah! The ending with Desmond and Claire and then Charlie and Claire. :) SO happy and sweet! The note that was tied to the seagulls leg, I loved it. Especially when Charlie read it...and it was like a voice over thing...so perfect.

GAH! I love Lost SOOOO much!

*bounces around excitedly*

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Oh, one more thing, did anyone else notice the music was a bit more...dramatically eery than usual? :P Like every time it swelled, I half expected something bad to happen. :P

Oh well, whatever.

BRILLIANT episode in my opinion! And I don't care if I'm the only one! :P


Glad you enjoyed it so much Monty. Regular cast and Ben...what more could you want? ;)

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MontanaBohmian,I have liked the past few episodes as well. :-D Oh, and the Jack/Claire thing didn't surprise me either but it might have had I not had such wonderful spoiler hunters around here. :notworthy: So I liked it.
Nope. You certainly are not the only one who thought that the episode was brilliant. See because I agree. :-D Finaly some more PB and J (...I was really starting to miss them together...), the Jack/Claire thing really needed to be addressed so I was happy about that being cleared up, Kate, Mr. Clean, and Sayid getting so much closer to Others Ville :bounce:, and I belive that around here we use "bouncy wouncy" (? instead of a happy dance)...So I was all bouncy wouncy for Sawyer with his glasses on...it's about time that they let us see that fine man with his glasses on again. :drool: Good episode. I give it two thumbs up. :-D

JF, Do you want to know about the commercial? If so...it mainly just shows a bunch of shots of Locke (inclueding one of him looking pretty roughed up being put into a wheel chair), the narriator says "The John Locke story that every one has been waiting for will finaly be told...", has a shot of Locke pointing a gun at a bed ridden Ben, and Ben saying that he knew about Locke being in a hweel chair for four years and he knew why. (Small Spoiler allert coming) On my information for next week's Lost it says that it will be called "Man from Tallahasse" and that "Ben offers to give Locke some of the island's secrets if Locke will agree to stop his descructive plans" or something very close to those lines. Well, that's really all I know about that right now but if I find anything else out I'll try to let you know. :-D

Lotrfreak13, When is "Left behind" soposed to air? Do you know which character that one is suposed to focus on yet?

Okay now I have a stupid question...how on Earth are Jack and Claire going to relize that they are half siblings? I mean she didn't know her biological father's name and I can't really see her just walking up to Jack (if and when he returns to the Lostie's part of the island) and saying hey do you think that we are siblings. I mean I think that that would be a bit of a jump. So how do you think that they will find out that they are half siblings? Do you think that they will even have them find out that they are half siblings?
Another thing did it bother anyone else that they had Kate climb over the alert system first? It really kind of bother my mum and myself. I mean she was the girl. Shouldn't they have sent Mr. Clean or Sayid first? Do you think that we are suposed to think that they sent Kate first just because Mr Clean and Sayid think that Kate is the weakest link or what? okay, my partcialy rant is over...sorry.


Lol, *bouncey wouncey* will take over the world, you wait and see. ;)

Thank you for the info on the next epsiode. It should be really interesting....finally we get to know why Locke was in a wheelchair. I orignally thought it was because of the kidney operation he had, as he complained of back pain, and we have had flashbacks since then, which have pretty much showed the operation was a good few years back. I wonder what possible bearing it could have on LOST....maybe he has a connection with another Lostie..maybe they caused the loss of use of his legs?

Hmm...well me and my brother thought there were two ways we would find out the Claire/Jack connection. One being how it was last night, when the information was revealed to the audience. The other and most simple way would have been for the Others to tell Jack (as they must know) and so in turn tell us. Now we know, and Jack and Claire don't, I still think the Others will tell Jack....maybe use it against him....I mean he now has family on the island...a half-sister and a nephew. I'm not sure how Claire will find out, if Jack stays with the Others.

@ Monty - The scene where there is a slight hint at Jack having a half-sister is the episode of Ana-Lucia's flashback, where she is in Australia, meets up with a man in a bar in (Jack's dad), who finds out she's a cop and wants her to be a bodyguard. He then goes to this woman's house and demands to see his daughter. That's the only hint we have.

@ DD - Are we calling Locke Mr. Clean now or am I just confused? :teehee:

@ Banana - I'm not even going to get into the whole "Kate up a tree argumeent" until I've seen the epsiode. I can see both sides but Kate is Kate...I mean she blew up her dad....so what's climbing a tree? :P I ♥ your banner by the way. :D

@ Gil - *POKE* :P Yay for the Others epsiodes!!! I too like them best...but only when Jack doesn't look like he's going to cry, Juliet is being a cow and Ben isn't in danger. :guilty:


Ok....here lies my LOST rant.....

Pretty much after I saw the first 6 episodes of LOST, I said to my brother, I want the Others mystery to drag out a lot longer, after all we've been hearing about them for 2 seasons, having their story revealed and fortress penetrated early on is a bit meh....I said my worst nightmare was Kate, Jack and Sawyer escaping and getting back. So what happened? The Others control and power was imediately broken and Kate and Sawyer got back...in a boat. I then said my worst nightmare was Locke and Co, taking the boat and going to Other-Island.....and as it happened they have actually found the proper home of the Others....I don't know how everyone else feels about this remarkable turn of events, but something doesn't quite gel here....I mean....in 10 episodes of series 3...and they weren't even looking on the right island for the Others....our Losties now know were the Others live?! How can they be enemies anymore? I mean what can the Others do? Capture them? But what if people coming looking for the captives? They can't stay secret now. Surely having Others-ville known to the Losties means things are going to change dramatically? I can't explain it....but it's like LOST is going to take on a whole new meaning....and I'm not sure I like this......I would be delighted to hear that the Others aren't bad people....but I can't see us finding that out for a long time....so what happens in between?

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Banana Republic, okay...

MontanaBohemian, I agree that Kate is a strong, able to fend for herself, generaly against that type of attitdue woman whom had the idea to rescue Jack. So her wanting to go and doing so was really allright with me...it's that the men didn't offer to go that upset me.
If Sayid or Locke had been the one to go and had fell into the system...they would have been no more or less expendable than Kate I agree. I'm not even saying that they should have went but that they should have offered. As a common curtousy from any capable man to Any woman. What would I say if it had been the French woman? I would be saying the exact same thing that I have been saying about Kate. (shrugs) However this is just my opinion.

Gilrean Ringeril, I felt really sorry for Kate at the end too. She was so dead set to find Jack and then what is Jack doing...playing football?! It's like all the world is right with him while Kate is worring herself half crazy over him? Oh brother... :duh: I really hope that they clear that up too.
Well,I haven't watched the first season either. However I did read the transcripts for it and it really helped me suport PB and J (chalrie and Claire). The first season was a starting point for their relationship and it helped to show how far they were/are willing to go for the other one's sake...especialy in Charlie's case. So I would recamend reading the transcripts (if you haven't allready) for anyone who can't watch the first season. However if you just don't like PB and J that's okay with me too.
By the way I like your new avavter and banners...especialy the Skate one. :drool: They look so cute there.

JF, You are welcome for the summary and the information on the commercial.
Claire had the gothic look...dark hair, dark clothes, and dark jewlery... going for her during the flash backs (all except the very last flash back) of this week's episode. I don't really know why she changed her look later on but she did. Perhaps we are suposed to say that it was a teenage phase for Claire (shrugs). I hope that that answered your question.
Ooh, that's a good idea. Really it's the Only way that I could see Jack and/or Claire finding out that they are half siblings. In my opinion they have to find that out though otherwise them being related at all will pretty well be pointless. So they probabley will take it in that dirrection. Plus Ben (and whoever else had that knowledge and means to reach Aaron/Claire) would have an upper hand on Jack. Jack would never let any other Lostie be harmed if at all in his power to prevent it...but to have it actualy be his family...that would hit really close to home.
Personaly as I had said I'm not looking forward to the Mr. Clean episode. However since you like him I think that you will probabley like the following episode. So for that reason I will try to keep an open mind and am happy for you. Now that being said I think that him having a connection to one of the toher islanders would be a good idea. It would make things more interesting in my opinion. Do you think that you would like Locke having a connection to one of the islanders? If so then who and how perhaps them accidently (or intentionaly) putting Mr. Clean in his wheel chair?
I also agree with you about the Others power slipping not being a good thing. They don't exactly have to be mean but I think that they really need the Other to have that certain power in order to help propell the storyline. I really don't think that this is a good idea on the writter's part. Oh, well maybe it will turn ut to be a good thing. (sigh)
You are not confused. I have taken to calling Locke Mr. Clean and sometimes have "is mean" acompany that. :vampire: :lol: I can't help myself. I have always thought that Locke looked like Mr Clean but refrained from saying so because I didn't think that anybody would have any clue who I was refering to. Then I found where Sawyer had called him that once. So I decided that Locke really must look like Mr. Clean and that it would make enough sense to call him that. :-D

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Thanks DD. :D

I suppose the question is...will Jack like being told he has a sister because his dad had a relationship with another woman? I mean, he may well just not want to know, and he may not even care less as they aren't really his flesh and blood....I can see Jack taking this attitude....but if course he'll do the right thing. :eyeroll: At the moment though, I can't see the Others threatening him with anything, they seem to be on good terms.

I downloaded the trailer for next weeks epsiode and I am very excited....not because of Locke but because Ben is in it (PJ'S and close up SQUEE!!!!) and we may actually get some answers. I'm guessing there will be a connection with another islander...that way it is actually linked with something worthwhile....might even have been Ben who caused him to be in a wheelchair....:teehee:

Is Mr. Clean a character from another show or something and you think Locke looks like him?

I had a massive [s]discussion[/s] argument with my brother last night about LOST. We were going over the past few epsiodes and I mentioned about Juliet being condemned to death, which he really, really hates the idea of, not because he likes Juliet but because he thinks the story is stupid. He thinks for people who are supposed to be "civilized" simply condemning someone to death for killing another is stupid. And was she simply going to be killed just like that without any trial etc....

But I have another theory. Let's just say Ben & Co thought Jack might use the operation in his favour and manage to get Kate and Sawyer free. And let's say Pickett should not have been near Kate and Sawyer on the day, so Juliet had to kill him to stick to the plan.....we only have their word that Juliet was to be executed. When Jack said he wasn't going to fix Ben, Jack was then told Juliet was going to be killed for killing an Other and helping Kate and Sawyer escape....so then Jack said he will fix Ben if Juliet is not killed...so I just wonder if she really was going to be killed. Ben has probably seen that Juliet has had an effect on Jack and has used this to his avantage. Even if they hadn't forseen Jack's plan, and Juliet really did kill Pickett simply to let Kate and Sawyer go free.....we still don't know she was going to be executed.

Anyway those are just my thoughts....which aren't good enough for my brother...honestly, you'd think it was my fault they'd written the "condemning" storyline in. :annoyed:

SQUEE! I get 5 LOST episodes tomorrow...that's if he remembers to bring them.... :disgust:

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Mr. Clean is the name of a cleaning product. Their symbol is a drawing of a bald man in a white shirt. Here's a pic:
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Oh and I believe Julliet did have a trial. She was on trial when Ben sent the note for her not to be killed. Anyway I believe the only reason they wanted to kill her in the first place was not because she killed Pickett but because she threatened to kill Ben.

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OMG!!!!

*dies*

It's Locke!!!!

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Ah, so she did have a trial...one on the eye for my brother anyway....:P

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Alright....ummmmmm.....what to say? :P

I think you guys have all posted my viewpoints on everything, so I'm just not going to say anything right now :P

Although, thanks for clearing that Mr. Clean/Locke thing up! Now I get it, and it's funny :lol: XD I hope this episode about Locke is good though. I just don't like him :annoyed2:

Oh, have fun watching all that Lost JF! :D

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Banan Republic, Thank you greatly for posting that picture.

JF, You are very welcome.
I hope that your brother gets to bring you the Lost tape and that you have alot of fun watching the Lost episodes as Gilraen Ringeril said. :-D
Locke and Mr. Clean really do look alike, don't they? Sawyer and I really aren't blind. :laugh:
I think that at first Jack won't even believe that Claire is his half sister (especialy if he hears it from one of the Others). However I think that eventualy he will accept and love Claire and Aaron as his family. Now as for him not liking being told that...I would agree. I would say that whoever tells him is going to get yelled at for the simple fact that the one person (Christian) that Jack will truely be mad at won't be there to get his due. It's not so much that he is really mad at that person (one of the others, Claire, whoever) but that they will be they scape goat.
Why aren't Jack and Claire/Aaron flesh and blood? Jack and Claire are half siblings by means of sharing a bilogical father, correct?
That is very a interesting and plausable theory. Um, Juliet did have a trail (as Banana Republic said),...unless the whole trail was a fake just to fool Jack and/or us. That could have easily been just to fool Jack though. Therfore that really wouldn't put a hole in your theory either. Now when Juliet had talked to Jack earlier on in season three (before the hiatus) she made it seem as though Jack was suposed to fall for her romanticly. So perhaps you are right and the whole fake possability exacution for Juliet could just be a part of their plan for Jack to fall for Juliet and do whatever the Others need/want him to. Now if so do you think that Jack would/will fall for it...fall for Juliet?
I agree that it seemed a much bigger deal that Juliet tried to off Ben rather than what she did to Pickett. However what I really want to know is Why is Ben so highly vauled....as vital...perhaps even beloved...by the Others, when Pickett (another one of their own) was not?
Okay while on the subject of Ben....what is everyone's favorite Ben scene?

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Alright, all this Juliet business is confusing me...so no comment here :P

However, I'm almost sure that Jack and Juliet will end up together, at least for a little while. They might even be together now, since Jack seems to be fitting in with the other Others (LOL :teehee:). But then again, his reunion with Kate might ruin any chances of a Jack/Juliet relationship...I don't really know =/

And I think most people like/support/care about Ben more than Pickett simply because Ben is more important than Pickett was, and Ben seems to be their leader.

My favorite Ben scene? Well, seeing as I don't really like him, I don't have one :P However, if I had to pick....I'd say the scene where he was talking to Jack on the operating table and had to write the note allowing Juliet to live :D

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Gilraen Ringeril, Well sometimes Juliet can get confusing. lol :-D
Yes, most fans prefer Ben. I think that I did/do too. :-D Pickett was...um...not nice...well on ths plus side he didn't ever try to hide that he was Mr. Not nice. lol I wonder why...the Others seemed to care more about Ben though? Perhaps because as you said he is kind of their leader and therfore is more important to the Others...?
That was a good Ben scene. He looked all serious and perhaps even a tad bit mad and frustrated.
Personaly though my favorite is the one where he is like being mean to the bunny at the first of the third season and he is saying hippity hoppity...(rolls over laughing). That was just so...idiotic that it was funny. Yesterday at my brother's birthday party he was hopping around saying hippity hoppity and I just started saying the whole Ben scene and then I burst out laughing...my poor brother so didn't get it. Anyone else quote Lost in public and get the "you're crazy" look from people?
Well what is everyone's favorite character's scene? Like if your favorite character is.... Jack (random...you can pick any character as your favorite) then what is your favorite Jack scene?

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