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Post subject: V for Vendetta & The Matrix Posted: November 6th, 2007, 2:37 pm |
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Joined: 03 June 2006 Posts: 302 Location: Portland, Oregon USA Country:
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I was just thinking on the reason why V for Vendetta didn't do as well as the Matrix Trilogy. Could it be because it is too close to home? To ponder on events in a setting far removed from reality that there could be a world that is pulled over our eyes to blind us to the truth is one thing. It is quite another to graphically spell that out in our world and in terms we understand all too well!
Do you think it is just too troubling for the masses to contemplate? It is not like I can’t understand. Stark images throughout remind us of humanity's not so distant past (and truthfully, our present!) and to the truth of the saying, "Those who do not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them."
It is we who will be repeating the words of Gandalf to each other in our time, "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All they have to decide is what to do with the time that is given them."
I really liked the movie (esp what it had to say about suffering) and thought it was excellently done. But it was troubling to me overall and very hard to watch in places.
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Post subject: Thanks.... Posted: November 6th, 2007, 3:34 pm |
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Joined: 03 June 2006 Posts: 302 Location: Portland, Oregon USA Country:
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It was the 5th of November yesterday wasn't it! I didn't even think about that. It is just a wild coincidence that I watched it yesterday too!
I suppose, living in Great Brittian, you are more aware of that. I had to look up Bonfire Day on the net to find out what it was!
I really appeciate your perspective on the film!
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Post subject: Posted: November 6th, 2007, 7:56 pm |
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Joined: 03 January 2006 Posts: 13134 Location: Canada Country:
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Yeah, it think its because the Matrix is less of a thinking movie, and more of an action movie, with thinking as a side thing.
Although I have to say, I enjoyed V for Vendetta way more than the Matrix movies.
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Post subject: Posted: November 7th, 2007, 4:44 am |
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Joined: 03 June 2005 Posts: 4079 Location: In my dreams Country:
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I think you might be on to something there, Sinbearer. I think that although the Matrix and V for Vendetta are very similar, V for Vendetta is much more of a serious distopia in the near future, whereas the Matrix leans more towards science fiction (though still a distopia). So the Matrix is a lot easier for the general public to watch, and like Ellie and Darky said, it was cutting edge film technology and one didn't have to think as much.
I've only seen the first two Matrixes, but I definitely liked V for Vendetta better.
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Post subject: Posted: November 7th, 2007, 6:15 am |
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Joined: 24 February 2006 Posts: 640 Location: France Country:
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V for Vendetta touched me in a way that no other film before did. I was totally astonished! It's frightening to take conscience that this kind of society is probably our future!
I think it deals with serious questions, some of them really are in the actuality like terrorism... What's terrorism? When does one cross the line between resistance and terrorism? If such a government ruled our contry, would we be ready to open our eyes, to rise and to stand against it?
For this, I enjoyed it wayyyyy more than the Matrix trilogy... The trilogy had a point, sure, but was sometimes messy and could have the audience confused, but above all this was an action movie.
V for Vendetta is more about reflexion I think...
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Post subject: Distressing... Posted: November 7th, 2007, 11:59 am |
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Joined: 03 June 2006 Posts: 302 Location: Portland, Oregon USA Country:
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Nessameldë wrote: V for Vendetta touched me in a way that no other film before did...It's frightening.... ...I think it deals with serious questions, some of them really are in the actuality like terrorism... What's terrorism? When does one cross the line between resistance and terrorism? If such a government ruled our contry, would we be ready to open our eyes, to rise and to stand against it?
For this, I enjoyed it wayyyyy more than the Matrix trilogy...
I have long enjoyed the Matrix...the first one more than the others. I am challenged by what it says about the way life is for most of us. It IS hard to see life the way it really is.
But V for Vendetta talked about things that are more troubling to me. It was all you said Nessameldë, and more. Things that immediately comand my attention in the world I live in. I don't want to live in a world like this...but I do. The worst part is that it demands a response from me. What would I do in the same place? Scary and distressing thoughts!
The one message that I am still reeling from is that we have to suffer in this life--even be tortured, to be set free! I mean, I guess I am not taken off guard by the concept that we have to die to live but the way it was portrayed in V for Vendetta was...well....dynamic and shocking.
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Post subject: Posted: November 9th, 2007, 6:29 pm |
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My idea about the Matrix and V for Vendetta was that V for Vendetta seemed more realistic to us, in 2007, than the Matrix series. Like right now, the thought of artificial intelligent machines taking over the world seems ridiculous to us. But the idea that a government can take control of an entire country that is in the middle of a chaotic time seems very very probable, as past regimes have done so. And V for Vendetta not only focused on one man's struggle against the institution but also two battles inside two people: V and Evey. The Matrix was largely concerned with one man's battle against the institution.
And as for bad reviews, I think some people thought V for Vendetta was a liberal propaganda film. But I did enjoy it. Far more than I enjoyed the Matrix trilogy.
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