I think who like who depends on the persons personality and what type of person they prefer.

I myself choose Galadriel because she did alot to help those in need and she is the wisest and noblest elf living. And I believe she's around 15, 000 years old. Some may find her evil at first, but it's expected since she's been alive for so long you kind of become a little straight forward and have to be careful who you let into your lands in times of danger. I also love her because she's so well rounded. She's married to someone she loves, like Arwen, and she is wise and beautiful and if she were to fight, like Eowyn, I'm sure she would have been a great and survived. Who knows, maybe she did fight in the Noldorin rebelion...

But this doesn't mean I don't love Arwen and Eowyn as well:

Arwen is great as well. She hold a more quiet strength then the rest. Though it may seem like she didn't do much, giving up your immortality is no easy business and it's something to think about. Some find her annoying because of her outside appearance, though I find that no rightful way judge a person.

Eowyn is awesome. She's strong and has a lot of will power. Though she may have been wrong in some things, she is smart and determined. I think she is more favored then others because she is more frequently, position we can relate to and she is closer to human heart and experiences the similar emotions. She's relateable to.

Rosie is adorable. She is more suited for those who like the dancing fun loving type. In my opinion.

Goldberry is cool. She is so smooth in speech. She seems to suit those who like the admired and beautiful.

All our fair maidens rock!

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I voted Eowyn for the reasons most of you have listed. I personally love the music video for here here:
http://www.theargonath.cc/videos/mv/mv.html

you have to scroll quite a bit before ya get there.

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Galadriel in the books. Arwen is kind of a non-character, Eowyn is too...morbid I guess, Goldberry you never really get to know, and Rosie also has a small part. Galadriel's just very wise, very beautiful, and very...nice. Not frightening like she was (sorta) in the movies. But out of all the Tolkien characters (not just in LotR), I'd pick Luthien and Idril. And Varda, if she counts

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^well, I don't really like her all that much either, but I didn't really want to seem too vehement about that in case I hurt anybody's feelings.

Anyway, I feel that in comparison to how important the movies make her seem (they put her on the cover of all the DVDs), she doesn't play that much of a big role. She's never in the battles, never in any place dirty or ugly. The only part I liked was the part when she took Frodo on the horse in FotR. Although she is sort of important in a way, because Aragorn is in love with her, and I suppose that almost all movies have a touch of romance to make it good.

This is all my opinion, so don't stick a fork in me.

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That's very true. There isn't much on Goldberry and Rosie. But now that I think of it, I should have added Luthien and Varda as well because they are mentioned throughout the books. But just so I don't feel regretful about it I'll say it's a poll based on the "currently alive". lol




Of course we won't stick a fork in ya! You spoke your mind. We like that around here.

Arwen plays a very small role throughout the books but her role was expanded in the movie because they had to make her knownn. If she just showed up at the end to marry Aragorn, people would be confused. They had to keep her in the minds of the viewers throughout the trilogy, that's why there's little bit of her in each movie.

Sure she wasn't in any of the battles but that's not always what's improtant though. She may not posess that same strength as those out fighting (though I read that there isn't much difference between male and female elves strength) but she holds a silent strength that is less visible. Her becoming mortal is a big thing and not easy at all. She risked everything and depended on hope all for her love. If she hadn't made that decision alot of things would not have happened. Gondor wouldn't have had an heir and she was the hope of men in that way to keep the line of the kings going.

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Thanks. Reading that was so sad. I guess it is a big sacrifice on her part - but what I now want to bring up is the issue of immortality. Is it such a good thing like the books seem to hint? The issue of immortality is controversial to me - sometimes it's a good thing, other times it's awful to live forever. What do you think?

Just a thought of mine. It's open for argument.

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Well the books themselves say that sometimes the Elves grow weary of life, even in Valinor... one would say that immortality is both blessing and curse...

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I've heard that many times, maybe that's why I don't desire immortality myself

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There is only one thing that I dread: not to be worthy of my sufferings.

Ah see I am too curious about the future to NOT want immortality... yes change and things falling away would be bad, but I think I could live with it...

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I love Éowyn! Fair as a steel lily...

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Immortality. A very long topic.

At first the elves envied the humans mortality because by being immortal they were bound to the circles of the world and they considered it a doom. Later, the mortals envied the leves immortality and because they mainly wanted more time. This caused conflicts and such and so the elves also held a sort of pride of it then but the wiser knew better, at least at some it is a good thing but overall it is a drag.

I find immortality to hold many postive points because you can live longer and quench your thirst to know of the future. But it is not a blessing in reality. If you were granted immortal life, you would watch all else die around you while you remained each friend would leave you with no choice or say in it themselves, for it is the fate of all mortals to die.

Why fear death? It's inevitable for all of us. Enjoy the time we have. And we are lucky that we can be let out of the circles of the world and away from the misery of the world.

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Very, very well said Arien!!!! I agree wholeheartedly! Bieng immortal has its highs and lows. The one reason I would not want to be immortal is I would have to watch all my family and friends die. It would be to sad......

We'll put Arien!

Larael Greenleaf, you'd have to watch generations apon generations of your family die, that would depress me.

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^Good topic for a debate.

Me, personally, if I had been offered immortality, I would have declined. It's too scary to think of an endless life. True, you witness many good things, but once the world is empty (like the sun dies out) and after the universe collapses - then what? You're still alive. And worse yet, you're alive with no one for company. It would be too lonely.

I talked to my parents about immortality, and they said that they'd like to live forever. I cannot believe it. They think I'm naive to want to die (they think I'm maybe suicidal, which I'm NOT), and I think they're naive because if they do become immortal, they'll have endless eons to think about their one mistake that changed their life forever - and forever -

And forever.

*ahem*

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That would personally drive me nuts.

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There is only one thing that I dread: not to be worthy of my sufferings.

And that is exactly my point. But other people who like the idea of immortality don't see that point. It's controversial, and I don't mean to offend anyone with my comments!

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