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Post subject:  Posted: December 18th, 2006, 4:53 am |
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Yeah, it is.
The Minas Tirith that is mentioned in The Silmarillion was destroyed, though. It was built by Finrod Felagund on Tol Sirion, then captured by Sauron, then finally destroyed.
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Post subject: Posted: December 18th, 2006, 9:51 am |
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WOW. this is confusing. . .  but i think i got it.  ok so the Gorfindels are really the same person? that's cool. i would have never thought that. i would've thought they were different  got. to .read. more. tolkien. *goes to Borders* _________________ "Have i gone mad?"
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Post subject: Posted: December 18th, 2006, 12:37 pm |
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Lol....they are both one and the same.
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Post subject: Posted: December 18th, 2006, 1:41 pm |
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Wasnt Tol sirion kept undefield til the breaking of the world after th efall of Numenor?
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Post subject: Posted: December 18th, 2006, 7:26 pm |
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Yes i think so. But the river Anduin, it moved but it was the same river, right?
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Post subject: Posted: December 19th, 2006, 8:34 am |
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No. The Anduin has always been where it is. The Minas Tirith of Tol Sirion was on the river Sirion, which vanished when all that land sank beneath the sea. So the Minas Anor Minas Tirith is a completely different Minas Tirith.
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Post subject: Posted: December 19th, 2006, 10:01 am |
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AAhhhh. okies. that clears things up.
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Post subject: Posted: December 23rd, 2006, 8:01 pm |
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Yes Anduin has been where it is since after the War of Powers (the second War between Melkor and the Valar, in which Melkor is chained up in Mandos) until as far as we know into the future.
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Post subject: Posted: December 29th, 2006, 1:22 am |
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I'd like to think he was reborn, because he had done such good things at the fall of Gondolin that I think he deserves reappearing in LotR. I'm not sure it about it though, but I like the idea of him being reborn
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Post subject: Posted: December 29th, 2006, 7:51 am |
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Well as we know, thanks to the quote, that it is a fact that they are the same.
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Post subject: Posted: December 30th, 2006, 10:47 am |
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oops sorry I hadn't read that. Thanks for giving me this hint. Good 2 know
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Post subject: Posted: December 30th, 2006, 5:13 pm |
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guys - I've read that the glorfindel from rivendell isn't the same like gondolin's.
"Es ist nicht bekannt, ob Glorfindel mit dem gleichnamigen Edlen von Gondolin verwandt war..." (source: handbuch der weisen von mittelerde")
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Post subject: Posted: December 30th, 2006, 5:33 pm |
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Well as I don't understand whatever language you speak I will have to pass judgement until a translator can do his business...
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Post subject: Posted: December 30th, 2006, 5:38 pm |
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it is german - i hate this but ....
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Post subject: Posted: December 31st, 2006, 1:29 am |
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it says:
It's unknown if Glorfindel (the Rivendell one) is related to the one from Gondolin with the same name.
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Post subject: Posted: December 31st, 2006, 7:15 am |
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Can I ask where and who the source is by?
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