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| Author: | gollum13 [ June 10th, 2008, 3:40 pm ] |
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In my opinion, those fanfics are quite amusing if you don't take them too serious. I've read a lot of fanfics with Frodo/Sam and I laughed my head off... (just because in the movie, in my opinion, it comes over like they were gay...and I've had a conversation with my friends about Frodo and Sam being gay...or Legolas looking like a girl...we came up with random slash pairings and laughed so much) lol...just lol...at people's imagination...so...don't take fanfics too serious 
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| Author: | Aerandir [ June 11th, 2008, 3:55 pm ] |
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Yeah, perhaps they're amusing, but I don't see why I need to 'pollute' my head with such stories. If I see a fanfiction with a slash warning, I just skip it. I'm absolutely not interested in seeing the characters that Tolkien created mangled by some misled and deranged person who has only seen the movies or read part of the books. It is really frustrating that people do that at all. Especially to Glorfindel. Glorfindel happens to be in my top five favourite elves, so when people mess up his character, that is absolutely degrading to him and infuriating to me. I mean, seriously. If you've read The Book of Lost Tales 2 or The Silmarillion, there is nothing in there that points to him being gay. So it just makes me angry that people could so mess up such a great character like that. Hence, I read very, very little Glorfindel fanfiction. |
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| Author: | Fíriel_18190 [ June 12th, 2008, 8:09 am ] |
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^ I couldn't agree more with you (by the way, I can't believe ur back again!!!!   )
Maybe we shouldn't take those fanfictions seriously, but still there's absolutely no sense in writing that. |
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| Author: | gollum13 [ June 12th, 2008, 11:56 am ] |
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Sure there's sense in writing such stories...sense of humor, randomness and creavity...if some people think Glorfindel is gay...let them think he is gay. If some people think Frodo and Sam are gay...let them think they are gay...people have different opinions and this is what makes the world go round... |
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| Author: | Aranel Fae [ August 6th, 2008, 8:10 am ] |
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Personally, I couldn't be bothered by the character's sexual orientation. Once the fic is written in a way that doesn't undermine Tolkien's work, I'm ok with it. If it's written beautifully and it flows well, I'm happy. Once there aren't Mary-Sues or anything of the sort, haha, go right on. So, I know that Tolkien never portrayed any of his characters as gay, but it's the author's fic, it's their own creativity, their own imagination. Let them do with it as they want to test their abilities, if you don't like it, just avoid it.
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| Author: | Eäryendë [ September 2nd, 2008, 8:24 pm ] |
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I've seen a few straight!Glorfindel stories on FF.net, but the majority of them are slash, the most common ship being Glorfindel/Erestor. I'm also tired of gay!Legolas. And gay!Misc. Elves. |
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| Author: | Turwaithion [ September 2nd, 2008, 8:29 pm ] |
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Yup. If I see one more Leg./Haldir or Glorfindel/Erestor, or even Elrond/?, I will take a course on how to blow up a site. *cleans STG44* |
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| Author: | Fíriel_18190 [ October 12th, 2008, 2:58 pm ] |
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Eäryendë wrote: I've seen a few straight!Glorfindel stories on FF.net,
Wow now that's good news!  as long as there's still some good fanfic out there I can cope with all the bad stories cuz I can simply ignore them and read the good ones instead 
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| Author: | mephiston, lord of death [ January 6th, 2009, 3:56 am ] |
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Hey, if you want to know the background of Glorfindel, then read his article o the Encyclopedia of Arda (I don't have a link). Suffice to say, he is double hard.... But Tolkien never indicates in his characters (at least obviously) that any of them are of a homosexual persuasion.All material implying this is NON CANONICAL, and as such, should be ignored utterly, and if I had my way, annihilated ruthlessly.  /rant.end
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| Author: | Aerandir [ January 9th, 2009, 4:42 pm ] |
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I could agree more with you, Mephiston. Glorfindel is one of my favourite characters, and whenever I see/hear him slandered as 'gay' my vision goes red, if you know what I mean. I wish there was some way to write a virus that would search out and delete all things pertaining to a certain topic. That would be really, really useful when it comes to misrepresentation of LotR characters. |
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| Author: | mephiston, lord of death [ January 9th, 2009, 6:08 pm ] |
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Aerandir wrote: I could agree more with you, Mephiston. Glorfindel is one of my favourite characters, and whenever I see/hear him slandered as 'gay' my vision goes red, if you know what I mean.
I wish there was some way to write a virus that would search out and delete all things pertaining to a certain topic. That would be really, really useful when it comes to misrepresentation of LotR characters. Well, to be honest, Im more familiar with the whole Sam/Frodo fics, mainly because its more "mainstream", and I use that word quite wrongly. But when I see any type of slash fic about LOTR, I too see red. Mainly because these are taking some of the best fantasy characters devised and dipping them into their own sick, twisted imagination just because of their own personal insecurities. Suffice it to say, I wouldnt just send a virus. I would be tempted to hunt them down and have them delete such abominations off the internet at the barrel of a gun. 
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| Author: | Turwaithion [ January 9th, 2009, 9:57 pm ] |
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Well, I'd settle for a virus that blows up thier computer, as akin to the one in 'Live Free or Die Hard'. Taht would give both damadge and 'persuasion' not to write such fics. |
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| Author: | Lostariel [ March 8th, 2009, 12:56 am ] |
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I have been known to read a bit of fanfic in my time and I have to agree, the LotR ones are usulally ridiculous. I think they're mostly written by moviefangirls. And I just want to say this (because if I get it out of my system here, then I maybe won't have to hijack the PA at school) LONG HAIR does not equal GAY!!! I don't think any of the gay guys I've known have long hair! I'm glad there are other people out there with the same opinion on these fanfics as me, gives me hope in humanity
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| Author: | LadyLónannûniel [ April 7th, 2011, 12:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Glorfindel...Gay? |
probably gay themselves but never told anyone, i heard of stories like that but i just stick to ones i can trust. Plus they have a secret that they have to get out! (sorry was i being cruel?) |
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| Author: | Seren [ May 3rd, 2011, 5:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Glorfindel...Gay? |
Yeah, this thread does come across as slightly homophobic. But whatever, I can get the frustration. I don't really have any issues with people writing slash fiction as long as it's done tastefully. As with all writing, if it's rubbish writing it's going to annoy me. But gay Elves... It's not something I can see happening. I'm pretty sure it's canon (somewhere in HoME I think.. maybe) that elves only have sex to procreate, like Catholicism teaches. They don't have sex outside of marriage either so all the FF of elves doing that don't really work, so of course the gay sexual relationships between elves don't work either. They're not human, they're elves. That's why I avoid any elven slash fiction... Because I can't suspense disbelief that much. I kinda wish I could suspense disbelief and so read any Arwen/Eowyn fan fiction but I can't.  Yeah, about the whole Glorfindel being "hard" therefore can't possible be gay thing... Have any of you watched 300? (You should, it has nearly naked Faramir running around in it.) Ignore the line Leonidas says about the Athenians being "boy-lovers". Homosexuality was encouraged in Spartan society. Spartan men didn't get married until age 30 and before that they were having sex with men. It's quite different to find men more "hard" than Spartans. Just saying... |
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| Author: | Freya Baggins [ May 3rd, 2011, 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Glorfindel...Gay? |
I am sorry to say, but this thread amused me, not because of its contents, but because of it's timing... I had just been wondering about the plethora of gay!elves on FF.net myself when this popped up in the topic list. Regardless, I think that people portray elves as gay because they do not do their research (and possibly because of Ralph Bashki, Rankin Bass, and DnD). The traditional term for elves is the archaic term for "happy," the word "gay" People see this word and do not think "happy" they thing "boy elves love other boy elves?! Cool, lets write fanfics about that!" without considering the background of the elven culture or the intent of the author. |
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