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Author:  Hanasian [ October 28th, 2017, 10:39 pm ]
Post subject:  The Dunedain Calander

The Dunedain Calander


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Yestarë:
'First-day', the name used in the Elves' calendars, and those derived from them, for the first day of the year. The actual date of Yestarë varied from calendar to calendar; according to the Reckoning of Rivendell, it fell on modern 28 March, while in the calendars of the Númenóreans and their descendants, its modern equivalent would be 22 December.

Narvinyë:
The first month in the calendars of the Men of Middle-earth, approximately equivalent to modern January (though in fact running from modern 23 December to 21 January). Its name means 'new year' (or, literally, 'new sun').

Nénimë:
The second month in the calendars of the Men of Middle-earth, approximately equivalent to modern February (though in fact running from modern 22 January to 20 February).

Súlimë
The third month of the year, according to the Stewards' Reckoning of Gondor, lying between Nénimë and the feast-day of Tuilérë. On a modern calendar, Súlimë ran between 21 February and 22 March.

Víressë:
The fourth month of the year, according to the Stewards' Reckoning of Gondor, following the spring feast-day of Tuilérë. On a modern calendar, Víressë ran between 24 March and 22 April.

Lótessë:
The fifth month of the year, according to the Stewards' Reckoning of Gondor, following Víressë. On a modern calendar, Lótessë ran between 23 April and 22 May.

Nárië:
The sixth month of the year, according to the Stewards' Reckoning of Gondor, following Lótessë, and preceding Loëndë, the feast of Midsummer. On a modern calendar, Nárië ran between 23 May and 21 June.

Loëndë:
Also known, especially by the Hobbits, as Midyear's Day, Loëndë was the day that fell in the middle of the year and was an important feature in many of the calendars of Middle-earth. On a modern calendar, Midyear's Day would be 22 June.

Cermië:
The seventh month of the year, according to the Stewards' Reckoning of Gondor, following Loëndë, and preceding Urimë. On a modern calendar, Cermië ran between 23 June and 22 July, in a normal year.

Urimë:
The eighth month of the year, according to the Stewards' Reckoning of Gondor, following Cermië, and preceding Yavannië. On a modern calendar, Urimë ran between 23 July and 21 August, in a normal year.

*Yavannië:
The ninth month of the year, according to the Stewards' Reckoning of Gondor, following Urimë, and preceding the autumn feast of Yáviérë. On a modern calendar, Yavannië ran between 22 August and 20 September, in a normal year.

*Ivanneth:
The ninth month of the year, according to the Dunedain of the North, following Urimë, and preceding the autumn feast of Yáviérë. On a modern calendar, Ivanneth ran between 22 August and 20 September in a normal year.

*Yáviérë:
The harvest feast-day of the Stewards' Reckoning of Gondor, lying between the months of Yavannië and Narquelië. On a modern calendar, Yáviérë would have fallen on 21 September.

Narquelië:
The tenth month of the year, according to the Stewards' Reckoning of Gondor, following the harvest feast of Yáviérë, and preceding Hísimë. On a modern calendar, Narquelië ran between 22 September and 21 October.

Hísimë:
The eleventh month of the year, according to the Stewards' Reckoning of Gondor, following Narquelië, and preceding the last month, Ringarë. On a modern calendar, Hísimë would run between 22 October and 20 November.

*Girithron:
The Sindarin name for the twelfth month of the year, according to the calendars of Men, following Hithui or Hísimë. On a modern calendar, Girithron ran between 21 November and 20 December. Likely used by the Northern Dunedain.

*Ringarë:
The last month in the calendars of the Men of Middle-earth (likely used by the Southern Dunedain), approximately equivalent to modern December (though in fact running from modern 21 November to 20 December).

Mettarë
The last day of the year; to the Elves, whose calendar started in spring, this was modern 27 March, but to the Dúnedain in Middle-earth, Mettarë fell in winter, on modern 21 December.

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*The harvest feast day of Yáviérë was according to the Stewards Reckoning of Gondor, but its unknown whether the Dúnedain of the north celebrated this day. It is assumed it was.

Author:  Gandolorin [ October 29th, 2017, 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Dunedain Calander

Do you convert this calendar to your Far Harad seasons? :-D

Author:  Evil.Shieldmaiden [ October 29th, 2017, 5:43 pm ]
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Goodness, thanks for doing all that work, Hanasían.

Author:  Hanasian [ October 30th, 2017, 12:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Dunedain Calander

Gandolorin wrote:
Do you convert this calendar to your Far Harad seasons? :-D

Last I checked, the months and number of days are the same, so no conversion needed. :lol:

Author:  Gandolorin [ October 31st, 2017, 11:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Dunedain Calander

Hanasian wrote:
Gandolorin wrote:
Do you convert this calendar to your Far Harad seasons? :-D

Last I checked, the months and number of days are the same, so no conversion needed. :lol:

:erm: quite ... it's just that I've heard this vague rumor that identical months do not equate to identical seasons, for some obscure reason ... :lost:

Author:  Hanasian [ November 1st, 2017, 5:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Dunedain Calander

Gandolorin wrote:
Hanasian wrote:
Gandolorin wrote:
Do you convert this calendar to your Far Harad seasons? :-D

Last I checked, the months and number of days are the same, so no conversion needed. :lol:

:erm: quite ... it's just that I've heard this vague rumor that identical months do not equate to identical seasons, for some obscure reason ... :lost:

Duh. You seem to confuse Earth with Middle Earth. :lol:

(And it isn't worth replying to the post after this one)

Author:  Gandolorin [ November 1st, 2017, 2:21 pm ]
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Not confuse, certainly, but JRRT was quite firm about his sub-creation being located on our planet, in our world. So much of what applies to our world applies to M-E. (See my post in the other thread where we discussed the same topic). :p

Author:  Hanasian [ November 29th, 2017, 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Dunedain Calander

Gandolorin wrote:
Not confuse, certainly, but JRRT was quite firm about his sub-creation being located on our planet, in our world. So much of what applies to our world applies to M-E. (See my post in the other thread where we discussed the same topic). :p

I suppose you have some letter or such to quote saying that Middle Earth is in fact historical to Earth? :lol: :happy:

Author:  Gandolorin [ December 1st, 2017, 3:57 pm ]
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You guess about letter is very likely right. But I’m not going to check that tonight. :p

Author:  Hanasian [ December 2nd, 2017, 12:24 am ]
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:lol:

Anyway.... Today, 2 December, is 12 Ringarë, 12 Hrívë, 12 Yulemath, and 12 Foreyule. It is only the h0ur that the day starts that is different.

;)

Author:  Gandolorin [ December 2nd, 2017, 1:04 pm ]
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12 vs. 2, so only 10 days ahead; less than the Gregorian vs. Julian calendar difference. :cool:

Author:  Hanasian [ December 2nd, 2017, 6:33 pm ]
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As far as the actual number used, yes, there is a difference of ten between 2 and 12. I commend you on your math skills. :lol:

Author:  Gandolorin [ December 3rd, 2017, 11:11 am ]
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Aw, shucks, that was nothin', really. :whistle:

Author:  Gandolorin [ December 17th, 2017, 11:36 am ]
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Hanasian wrote:
Gandolorin wrote:
Not confuse, certainly, but JRRT was quite firm about his sub-creation being located on our planet, in our world. So much of what applies to our world applies to M-E. (See my post in the other thread where we discussed the same topic). :p

I suppose you have some letter or such to quote saying that Middle Earth is in fact historical to Earth? :lol: :happy:

Yep, found it my updated (in 2016) German Tolkien Lexicon by Friedhelm Schneidewind:
letter No. 165, letter No. 183, letter No. 211. :speech: :tongue:

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