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| Author: | The Black Rider [ January 22nd, 2006, 2:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Lack of Ruhn and Harad |
I love the LOTR books, but I wish Tolkien should have givenmore details about Ruhn and Harad or any of the dark men. I kind of wonder what their story was, but that's just me. What do you guys think? |
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| Author: | Larael [ January 22nd, 2006, 7:13 pm ] |
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I quite agree with you. Tolkien went into great detail the cultures of the main people of Middle-Earth, but he never did go into great detail of those lesser people who are only mentioned, not even in the Sil. He probably either felt that he didn't need to go intto detail about them because of there lack of importance, or because he didn't care to learn anything else about them, so he didn't write anything else about them. 
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| Author: | Nauriel Rochnur [ January 23rd, 2006, 12:22 am ] |
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Yes. I want more info on them, along with a map of the whole contintent of middle earth, not just that little corner. I feel another extensive internet search coming on. I will find out more! Mauahahahahaha! |
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| Author: | Aerandir [ January 23rd, 2006, 11:35 am ] |
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Yeah, I'd love to have more info on them. And a map on the whole of Arda, not necessarily just Middle-earth, because that's just one continent. Who knows - there maybe other "Saurons" on other continents. |
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| Author: | Nauriel Rochnur [ January 23rd, 2006, 8:05 pm ] |
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I remember seeing a book that had the whoe continent as Tolkien drew it, but I cant find the book. And I don't remeber the title. Grrrrrrrrr |
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| Author: | The Black Rider [ January 23rd, 2006, 10:12 pm ] |
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Also, in the movies, did you notice they mixed up Ruhn and Harad at the Black Gate? The soldiers entering Modor in the books are Haradrim clothed in scarlet and gold. But in the movie, Easterlings enter Mordor clothed in scarlet and gold. I know they considered these soldiers as Easterlings via video games, google, and various LOTR products. Easterlings in the books are a barbaric force, like the Dunlanders. |
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| Author: | Aerandir [ January 25th, 2006, 8:18 am ] |
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Yeah, that's bugged me so much - they're not supposed to be Easterlings. They're southrons. I saw a map online of the Dark Continents, Nauriel, but now I don't remember where. |
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| Author: | Witch_King_of_Angmar [ January 29th, 2006, 1:14 pm ] |
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Try the Atlas of Middle Earth, it has maps of the whole world, including the far east, in several time periods |
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| Author: | Hanasian [ June 28th, 2008, 1:17 am ] |
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Karen Wynn Fonstad's Atlas of Middle Earth is an invaluable tool in getting a grasp of Middle Earth. I highly recommend it. It was my understanding that it was the Southrons who entered Mordor by the Black Gates after marching up through Ithilien. It was a company of Southrons that was ambushed by the Rangers of Ithilien led by Faramir which Gollum, Sam & Frodo observed. Easterlings would have likely entered Mordor from the northeast, as the armies of Khand would have entered Mordor from the southeast. |
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| Author: | Maironiel [ July 18th, 2008, 4:16 am ] |
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^^ i simply LOVE that book. must get a copy. many, many invaluable maps of every possible little thing you could ever wonder about... |
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| Author: | Fíriel_18190 [ August 4th, 2008, 6:09 am ] |
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^ yeah the Atlas of Middle Earth really is such a wonderful book. But I couldn't agree more with what has been said. I wish Tolkien had written more about the lands in the south and east of Middle Earth. I mean, the west probably was the most important part since the elves were there and Sauron lived in Mordor which is not that far east either, but still I think it would be really interesting to know more about how these people live and why they supported Sauron and so on |
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| Author: | Hanasian [ August 5th, 2008, 9:28 pm ] |
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Fíriel_18190 wrote: ^
yeah the Atlas of Middle Earth really is such a wonderful book. But I couldn't agree more with what has been said. I wish Tolkien had written more about the lands in the south and east of Middle Earth. I mean, the west probably was the most important part since the elves were there and Sauron lived in Mordor which is not that far east either, but still I think it would be really interesting to know more about how these people live and why they supported Sauron and so on Yeah. Its too bad Tolkien had a day-job as a professor. Just think what he could have completed had he been able to devote all his time to writing Middle Earth! But he had a family to feed and bills to pay, and the books wouldn't have provided much, if any meaningful income at the time. |
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| Author: | Fíriel_18190 [ August 7th, 2008, 4:01 am ] |
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^ yeah you're right of course. And I mean, we don't just have a lack of Rhun and Harad stories, but also the history of the West of Middle-Earth and Valinor has huge gaps, it's just that we know hardly anything of the lands in the east/south |
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