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Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ March 29th, 2006, 1:08 am ]
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Does anyone know the name of the Elves' religion? the Elbereth Gilthoniel one? thanks! :-D
Author:  Fíriel_18190 [ March 29th, 2006, 12:09 pm ]
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I've also wondered about that but I haven't found an answer... they just believe into Eru and the Valar/Valier
Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ March 29th, 2006, 12:11 pm ]
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hmmm but there should be a name for it ... its really awkward to have a religion without a name... :confused:
Author:  Aerandir [ March 29th, 2006, 2:41 pm ]
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The thing is, I don't think there's another religion to counter it, so...why have a name for your religion when it's the only religion? I mean, even the Orcs can't deny the existence of Eru and the Valar, seeing as Morgoth was a Vala, and Sauron was a Maia, and they both were created by Eru...
Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ March 29th, 2006, 2:58 pm ]
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hmm ... you have a point there ... :confused:
Author:  Fíriel_18190 [ March 29th, 2006, 3:44 pm ]
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yeah... I've never thought about that... the people in middle-earth knew that the Valar existed, but we don't know exactly.
Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ March 29th, 2006, 3:46 pm ]
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true true .. but since its a story ... shouldnt there be a name for it for US to refer to? :blink:
Author:  Nienor [ March 29th, 2006, 6:19 pm ]
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Aerandir wrote:
The thing is, I don't think there's another religion to counter it, so...why have a name for your religion when it's the only religion? I mean, even the Orcs can't deny the existence of Eru and the Valar, seeing as Morgoth was a Vala, and Sauron was a Maia, and they both were created by Eru...


Exactly. I wouldn't consider it much of a religion really- it's just the fundamental set of values that the entire world is based on.
Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ March 29th, 2006, 6:20 pm ]
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alright ... so that's sort of like Greek Mythology right?
Author:  Aerandir [ March 30th, 2006, 3:07 am ]
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Yeah, except it only has one God, and his "Angels" per say. The Valar are not gods, merely assistants. And they are not the only ones of their power - there are other beings of equal power with them, who did not come to Arda.
Author:  Fíriel_18190 [ March 30th, 2006, 7:09 am ]
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Yes to speak of it as a religion is not the right way I think... In a religion you belive in certain things, but the people of middle-earth knew that the Valar existed
Author:  tulk [ April 1st, 2006, 1:54 am ]
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perhaps just as we call the greeks' beliefs "greek mythology," we could call the elvish beliefs "elvish mythology." but that sounds too boring and obvious, so i would prefer just to call it "valarism."

yes. valarism.

i like it.

huzzah, i just coined a new word.
Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ April 1st, 2006, 1:58 am ]
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oooh nice ;) i think i'll call it that from now on too ... Valarism .. sounds great :P
Author:  Fíriel_18190 [ April 1st, 2006, 2:30 am ]
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Valarism?? Hey not bad :-D
Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ April 1st, 2006, 2:35 am ]
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haha! :-D
Author:  Astaldo [ April 12th, 2006, 7:52 pm ]
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Aerandir wrote:
The thing is, I don't think there's another religion to counter it, so...why have a name for your religion when it's the only religion? I mean, even the Orcs can't deny the existence of Eru and the Valar, seeing as Morgoth was a Vala, and Sauron was a Maia, and they both were created by Eru...


I agree with you Aerandir. I think this is the best explantion,

Aerandir wrote:
Yeah, except it only has one God, and his "Angels" per say. The Valar are not gods, merely assistants. And they are not the only ones of their power - there are other beings of equal power with them, who did not come to Arda.


Equal power? Who?
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