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*agrees* that would fit to the story I think
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| Author: | Ardhoniel [ April 14th, 2006, 9:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Balrogs Wings - An ongoing debate |
Ok, so I was reading about Balrogs in The Encyclopedia of Arda (http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/) and It seems that whether or not Balrogs actaully have wings is a topic for real debate. Personally, I can't decide. To begin with, it seems that from this sentance - "...suddenly it drew itself up to a great height, and its wings were spread from wall to wall..." that Tolkien ment for the Balrog to be interpreted as having wings, but then, if it DID have wings, why did it bother to run all the way up the Endless Stairs rather than just flying? So, what do you think, and why? |
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| Author: | Nauriel Rochnur [ April 14th, 2006, 10:19 pm ] |
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Well, since balrogs are just evil Maiar who assumed the shape, maybe they just added wings to make them look bigger. I don't know. |
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| Author: | Fíriel_18190 [ April 15th, 2006, 5:57 pm ] |
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I think Balrogs have wings if it is said in the books... but I really don't know... I just guessed |
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| Author: | Ardhoniel [ April 17th, 2006, 10:32 pm ] |
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But you see it never actually SAYS that Balrogs have wings - he could be just speaking figuritively. |
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| Author: | Fíriel_18190 [ April 18th, 2006, 2:38 am ] |
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that's true... I really don't know.... |
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| Author: | Ardhoniel [ April 24th, 2006, 12:19 am ] |
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hmmm. Persoanlly i think No. I mean, he never actaully says that they do, and if they did, why don't they use them? |
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| Author: | Larael [ May 13th, 2006, 9:38 pm ] |
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This thread has already been started here- http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=158 Enjoy!! |
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| Author: | Fíriel_18190 [ May 14th, 2006, 4:13 am ] |
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Ardhoniel wrote: hmmm. Persoanlly i think No. I mean, he never actaully says that they do, and if they did, why don't they use them?
That's true... I mean they don't use them, I don't know if it is ever said in any book, I've never read it in any of the books I've got... |
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| Author: | Guest [ May 22nd, 2006, 8:25 pm ] |
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The only way for both to be true: that the balrog had wings but did not choose to use them, is either that their wings are inoperable or that for some reason, he refrained from using them. I consider these to be the only explanations, short of a discontinuity in the story, which I automatically disregard. What does everyone think? |
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| Author: | Nauriel Rochnur [ May 22nd, 2006, 10:44 pm ] |
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Like I said before, A giant firery winged beast is a heck of a lot scarier than just a plain firery beast. I beth the Maiar did it for intimidation. |
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| Author: | Guest [ May 22nd, 2006, 11:39 pm ] |
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That is what I said; the Balrog may have just had inoperable wings. |
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| Author: | Fíriel_18190 [ May 23rd, 2006, 10:19 am ] |
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^ *agrees* that would fit to the story I think
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| Author: | eowynfaramir4eva [ June 1st, 2006, 3:39 pm ] |
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I'm gonna stick to my answer. NO they don't, the shadow just appears like it. I'm sticking to it. Although I've been asked this before the movie too. It was contraversy when the book was out also. |
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| Author: | ~RinielAranel~ [ June 1st, 2006, 5:14 pm ] |
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Well, I think the balrog has wings, but since they're made of shadow and flame, they probably can't fly. 
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| Author: | Nurrantiel Mashiara [ June 22nd, 2006, 10:20 am ] |
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^ That's what I think as well. It is stone and fire, so most likely the wings are for intimidation, not actually flying. |
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| Author: | Lord Of All [ July 10th, 2006, 6:06 pm ] |
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You bring up a very good point there. Wings could have existed for intimidation not nessersarily flying. I highly recommend this debate thread: http://tolkienforums.activeboard.com/index.spark?forumID=77580&p=3&topicID=7364359&subForumID=253352&topicPage= It is a very good basis for you to decide what you think is right. |
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