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Post subject: Plural Form Posted: June 7th, 2006, 2:32 pm |
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I've always been confused by this...
Is 'Vala' the singular form for the erm... Valar, and is 'Valar' actually the plural form?
This may seem like a dumb question, but I've always wondered about it. =/
Oh, and do these "rules" apply for the word 'Maia'?
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Post subject: Posted: June 7th, 2006, 2:35 pm |
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Vala and Maia are the singular forms, like I am now a Vala... Valar and Maiar are the plural forms, we are Valar... etc 
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Post subject: Posted: June 7th, 2006, 4:48 pm |
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^ That be right ^^
It`s like plain ol` Quenya; adding -i or -r for plural.
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Post subject: Posted: June 7th, 2006, 10:50 pm |
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Ah, thanks Pandora and Elfe! That makes complete sense. I guess this means I should go brush up on my Quenya now... 
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Post subject: Posted: June 7th, 2006, 10:59 pm |
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Haha, I think I should as well and your welcome anytime 
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Post subject: Posted: June 15th, 2006, 9:41 pm |
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Oh yeah. If I remember correctly, in Quenya you add an 'r' to the end of words that end in a vowel (Vala, Valar) and an 'i' to those that end in a constanant (Teler, Teleri)
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Post subject: Posted: June 16th, 2006, 8:03 am |
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really?? That's good... thanks for the information
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Post subject: Posted: July 12th, 2006, 11:42 pm |
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Don't forget about Valie though, the female Valar. I'm not sure if it's plural or singular, though, 
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Post subject: Posted: July 13th, 2006, 6:54 pm |
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Quote: Oh yeah. If I remember correctly, in Quenya you add an 'r' to the end of words that end in a vowel (Vala, Valar) and an 'i' to those that end in a constanant (Teler, Teleri)
That's right - I looked it up on the internet. So Vala is singular, and Valar is plural. 
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Post subject: Posted: July 14th, 2006, 9:24 am |
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Arneth wrote: Don't forget about Valie though, the female Valar. I'm not sure if it's plural or singular, though,  According to the Encyclopedia of Arda the word Valier is only used once and it is in Valaquenta to describe the seven queens of the Valar; Varda, Yavanna, Nienna, Estë, Vairë, Vána and Nessa. Quote: 'Valier' is a plural term. The singular form, which is apparently 'Valië', is never used in Tolkien's published work.
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Post subject: Posted: January 18th, 2007, 4:38 pm |
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i think it is after special letters where -i or -r are used but i cant remember which it were. i should refresh my quenya too
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Post subject: Posted: January 19th, 2007, 9:46 am |
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Eä wrote: Arneth wrote: Don't forget about Valie though, the female Valar. I'm not sure if it's plural or singular, though,  According to the Encyclopedia of Arda the word Valier is only used once and it is in Valaquenta to describe the seven queens of the Valar; Varda, Yavanna, Nienna, Estë, Vairë, Vána and Nessa. Quote: 'Valier' is a plural term. The singular form, which is apparently 'Valië', is never used in Tolkien's published work.
Oh ok, I didn't know that. Thx for that information Ea 
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