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PostPosted: June 7th, 2006, 2:32 pm 
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I've always been confused by this...

Is 'Vala' the singular form for the erm... Valar, and is 'Valar' actually the plural form?

This may seem like a dumb question, but I've always wondered about it. =/

Oh, and do these "rules" apply for the word 'Maia'?


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Vala and Maia are the singular forms, like I am now a Vala... Valar and Maiar are the plural forms, we are Valar... etc :)

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^ That be right ^^

It`s like plain ol` Quenya; adding -i or -r for plural.

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Ah, thanks Pandora and Elfe! That makes complete sense. I guess this means I should go brush up on my Quenya now... :P


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Haha, I think I should as well and your welcome anytime :)

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Oh yeah. If I remember correctly, in Quenya you add an 'r' to the end of words that end in a vowel (Vala, Valar) and an 'i' to those that end in a constanant (Teler, Teleri)


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really?? That's good... thanks for the information

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Don't forget about Valie though, the female Valar. I'm not sure if it's plural or singular, though, :confused:

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Oh yeah. If I remember correctly, in Quenya you add an 'r' to the end of words that end in a vowel (Vala, Valar) and an 'i' to those that end in a constanant (Teler, Teleri)


That's right - I looked it up on the internet. So Vala is singular, and Valar is plural. :-D

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Arneth wrote:
Don't forget about Valie though, the female Valar. I'm not sure if it's plural or singular, though, :confused:

According to the Encyclopedia of Arda the word Valier is only used once and it is in Valaquenta to describe the seven queens of the Valar; Varda, Yavanna, Nienna, Estë, Vairë, Vána and Nessa.
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'Valier' is a plural term.
The singular form, which is apparently 'Valië', is never used in Tolkien's published work.

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i think it is after special letters where -i or -r are used but i cant remember which it were. i should refresh my quenya too

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Eä wrote:
Arneth wrote:
Don't forget about Valie though, the female Valar. I'm not sure if it's plural or singular, though, :confused:

According to the Encyclopedia of Arda the word Valier is only used once and it is in Valaquenta to describe the seven queens of the Valar; Varda, Yavanna, Nienna, Estë, Vairë, Vána and Nessa.
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'Valier' is a plural term.
The singular form, which is apparently 'Valië', is never used in Tolkien's published work.

Oh ok, I didn't know that. Thx for that information Ea :)

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