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Post subject: What do hobbits represent Posted: November 2nd, 2006, 1:38 pm |
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Do any of you guys think that Hobbits are supposed to represent something?
If so...what do they represent and why?
Just curious as to what the views on this topic are!
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Post subject: Posted: November 2nd, 2006, 3:41 pm |
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I think that hobbits are there to represent peace and simplicity. They're very calm and worry about simple things unlike most of M-E. And at the end of RotK when Frodo and Sam are reminiscing about Hobbiton it really makes you see the contrast between the beginning and the end of the journey and how far they've really come.
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Post subject: Posted: November 2nd, 2006, 4:03 pm |
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The least important things we do not see very carefully or we do not care in the real life or less significantly we care the detail.
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Post subject: Posted: November 2nd, 2006, 8:19 pm |
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I think they might represent children, and the wonderful innocence that comes with childhood. They're so simple and carefree and ignorant of the rest of the world's troubles and toils, but completely happy. I remember being kind of like that when I was little.
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Post subject: Posted: November 3rd, 2006, 12:26 pm |
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Yes! The idea of us not paying enough attention to the things with most value! That's a good idea forthe representation. I also like the idea of Hobbits representing Childhood.
Do you guys believe that by any chance Hobbits were to represent the good in Middle-Earth. The Shire is, after all, a place of love, friendship, peace and harmony. They have barely no contact with the outside world and tend to keep themselves to theirselves so as not to land themselves into any mischief or trouble, hence the fact the Bagginses and frowned upon by the Sacville-Bagginses, because of the fact Adventures are wrong in the Shire...
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Post subject: Posted: November 3rd, 2006, 5:44 pm |
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Those are good points Frodo's-Guide. I've always thought of the hobbits as innocence. I always thought that they represented the innocence and pureness the world needed. Living in a world of war and hatred, I think the Hobbits represented the very innoncence that lives in all of us. The Shire is somewhat of a hidden place, and to me that signifiys that no matter how horrible things get, that hope and purity are still with us no matter how hidden or hard to see they are.
Well, that's my speach.
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Post subject: Posted: November 9th, 2006, 1:35 pm |
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lol and it's a very good one too!
Yes, the fact that the Shire is hidden...that too could bring about some controversy. It's hidden in the heart of middle-earth so that no evil can get to it. So no evil can no about it and the hobbits can no nothing about the world outside, that doesn't concern them. Do you think Tolkien was trying to make a point about certain people during the war and how they feel that the war is of no concern of theirs?
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Post subject: Posted: November 11th, 2006, 2:12 pm |
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I supposed you could never call hobbits evil, but I wouldn't call them good either. Lobelia is a perfect example of a pretty nasty hobbit.
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Post subject: Posted: November 11th, 2006, 4:41 pm |
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Hobbits I guess are like people. They can have a dark side too, but I don't think some of them or any of them are evil. There is a fine line between mean and evil.
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Post subject: Posted: November 15th, 2006, 1:20 pm |
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No no no thats not what i mean.
The fact that Hobbit seem to be closed off from everyone...does that not mean that possibly Tolkien was making a point about isolationism??
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Post subject: Posted: November 15th, 2006, 5:09 pm |
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Frodos-Guide wrote: No no no thats not what i mean. The fact that Hobbit seem to be closed off from everyone...does that not mean that possibly Tolkien was making a point about isolationism??
Sorry. I guess I misunderstood your post. That sounds reasonable that Tolkien was getting his point about isolationism across through the hobbits. I liked how even though they were isolated, Tolkien made them happy not knowing what happening on the outside world. He made it a positive thing.
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Post subject: Posted: November 22nd, 2006, 5:14 pm |
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yes i agree. hobbits really are pretty cool. i would love to live a care-free life without war and stuff like that.
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Post subject: Posted: May 28th, 2007, 3:39 pm |
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Taurquende wrote: I think they might represent children, and the wonderful innocence that comes with childhood. They're so simple and carefree and ignorant of the rest of the world's troubles and toils, but completely happy. I remember being kind of like that when I was little.
i agree. i also think that they represent good that lies in all of us. they represent happines and they are always happy with little things in life, they are good and kindhearted and they hearts are always filled with love, hope and a great joy for life.
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Post subject: Posted: June 3rd, 2007, 6:38 pm |
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I think they're like normal people. All they want is a simple life, away from evil and all that. But they can still have nasty sides... *cough* Lobelia *cough* like all people do.
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Post subject: Posted: June 11th, 2007, 5:38 pm |
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i just read something in the fotr and gandalf said he was glad that there was one place in all Middle-earth that was untouched my evil and a pleasant place to be away from the darkness of the world. The Shire with the hobbits. i say that's neat lol
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Post subject: Posted: June 27th, 2007, 7:40 pm |
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I agree with everyone. I think hobbits could also represent the idea that there are evil things and issues that must be solved in our world that we must not overlook or ignore. Even though at the moment they do not affect us, they will in time. This reminds me a bit of the global warming issue. And when in peace, we should think of those who are not, which I think is what most of the hobbits did not understand at first because their isolated world of peace was a perfect place for them.
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