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PostPosted: August 29th, 2007, 12:45 pm 


Alright so we know why Gandalf is going and we know why Sam is going but....the others...why?
I mean Aragorn...why is he there? Protection? Then maybe yes....but really what about the others? Why did they go....why did they really? To prove they cold? Or is there something Im missing :)


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PostPosted: August 29th, 2007, 10:47 pm 
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Well, here are just my ideas...

Frodo: Because he knew that since no one else was volunteering, he would have to be the one to grab the bull by the horns, as it were. It was his destiny to take the Ring, as it had been Bilbo's destiny to find it in Gollum's cave all those years ago.
Merry and Pippin: Probably just liked the idea of adventure, and also wanted to stick by their friend Frodo no matter what.
Aragorn: He knew the group would need an expert tracker and someone who knew the lay of the land. It could also be that he wanted to prove himself to Elrond.
Legolas: Likely went because on such an important Quest as this, the Elves would need a representative, and also a member with such good eyes and skill with a bow.
Gimli: Representative of the Dwarves, and probably also wanted to show that he was just as good as Legolas. :P
Boromir: Representative of Gondor, because he knew his father would want him to go. Also may have been because of the first nudgings of the Ring, perhaps he thought he could sneak away to Gondor with it sometime during the Quest.

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I tend to agree with you, Ánië, except that I think that Gimli, in the book, didn't have the same level of competition with Legolas.

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In the books they didn't just run forward like that as if they wanted to prove themselves. It was a long, slow, and careful time of preperation and decision. But how do you show that in a movie without prolonging it? No idea...

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But the point was still the same: Legolas went to represent the Elves, Gimli went to represent the Dwarves, Boromir went to represent men and because he was going back to Minas Tirith on the way, Aragorn went because they needed a tracker, they needed protection, and to represent men as well, and Gandalf went as a Guide. Merry and Pippin really did go because they didn't want to be left behind while everyone else went on an 'adventure.'

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Also because they loved Frodo. I don't think that's in the movie at all... :erm:

That's all true but it was more like Elrond chose them and they agreed rather than they just jumped forward at the council and announced that they were going. I think it makes them look terribly impulsive :confuzzled: especially Pippin. :annoyed:

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I think this is an awesome topic!

Well personally, I'd like to say that they were there to support one another but I know that the reason is farr deeper than that.

Well, each race wanted to stand up for their own cause, and their own race. This excludes the Hobbits who obviously wanted to go to keep each other company, the reasons for which are obviously that Hobbit friendship runs deeper than anything (: Aragorn, wanted to go to protect the Hobbits, as he states clearly 'If by my life or death I can protect you, I will...You have my sword....'. Boromir because his father sought power and I think that Boromir was greedy. He wanted the ring to carry out his own selfish purposes, claiming that the council should 'give Gondor the weapon of the enemy..' Obviously he was power hungry, consequently ending in his corruption leading to his death. Legolas went to fight for the elves, and Gimli for the Dwarves, although we could say that Gimli went along because 'He would die before he'd see the ring in the hands of an elf' lol :). As for Gandalf, he too had the knowlege and skill to provide protection to the ringbearer.

As for Frodo - he himself knew in his heart that he was the only one capable of bearing such a task - which in the end obviously proved to be correct.

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The united for a common cause - to save the free peoples of Middle-Earth. Yet, they also set out on the adventures of a lifetime that would lead them to their separate destinies.

Frodo: Ultimately, he was there to take the Ring safely to Mordor and destroy it.
Sam: The constant companion: Frodo wouldn't've gotten very far with Sam. He was the one with the sense when Frodo was blinded by the Ring.
Merry: It's not just about saving the Shire for him by the time we reach RotK. It's about saving his friends; the friends he has met along the way. Merry is ready to fight to defend the people he loves.
Pippin: Merely comic relief? I think not. Pippin was definitely the most matured by the end. Though certainly not as courageous in battle as his fellow Hobbits, Pippins is a quiet courage. He stands by, ready to follow, when he is needed, and to speak out when he knows something is not right. He saves Faramir from an otherwise unheeded end.
Aragorn: A guide and protector is what we saw in FotR. By the time we reach RotK we find a king amongst men. Unknowingly it seems, Aragorn joins the Fellowship in pursuit of that flighty temptress: freedom, what he finds in the end is his destiny as true leader of a free world.
Boromir: Some may say that Boromir had no use. He was evil, you may say. Nay, I do not think so. Boromir was a gift of a character. He was there to show us what would happen should you fall under the temptation of the Ring. He was a lesson to be learned, and though he died in the end, he died as an unsung hero.
Legolas: A by the way character he may be, he is a representative of those who have long since left the mortals of Middle-Earth to their fate. He has no given up hope for men, and this shows as he uses his keen Elven senses to aid the Fellowship, even when it is broken, across Arda to the penultimate climax.
Gimli: Another by the way character, though a sturdy one. He is another one of a race in Middle-Earth that has given up in helping Men. Like Legolas, his hope has not failed and he is determined to help in the fight. Along the way, the Legolas/Gimli friendship is quite beneficiel. It shows us that no matter how different we are, or what our past prejudices are we can still be friends, for we all have something in common.
Gandalf: The highest of all mentors is what I would call Gandalf. He guided Frodo in so many ways, and even when they had parted ways he continued to help the cause for peace. I believe that Gandalf knew in his heart that Frodo would make it.

Well, if that good-sized paragraph wasn't dramatic I dunno what is. :P


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PostPosted: September 18th, 2007, 11:35 pm 
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I have to agree with what's already been said.

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Haha, Larael, nice. :P You made me smile. :)
Did anyone mention that Elrond wanted 9 walkers to face the 9 black riders? Because that's why there are 9. :yes:

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Well that does make sence to me, heh I trust you guys ^_^ Anything you say goes good with me *huggles*

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I would have to agree with what has already been said. In the book there is not much of a competition between Legolas ang Gimli.

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Ánië has is right I belief.....

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I don't know if this discussion is still active :P but I clearly remember from the book that Aragorn didn't plan on going with them on their quest. He was going with Boromir to Minas Tirith and joined the group because they could travel together.

Hmm, doesn't anyone else remember that? :confused:

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PostPosted: December 11th, 2007, 3:52 pm 


Yeah now that you mention it, but he went along anyways, I'm guessing that's somehting that Peter changed, that measn that his reason for going changes as well?


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Will wrote:
I don't know if this discussion is still active :P but I clearly remember from the book that Aragorn didn't plan on going with them on their quest. He was going with Boromir to Minas Tirith and joined the group because they could travel together.

Hmm, doesn't anyone else remember that? :confused:


Yes, that certainly was in the book. They changed a lot of things in the movie. This is just another example of one! :)

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