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Author:  Lady of Taniquetil [ October 9th, 2006, 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Which towers are the two towers?
Arn't the two towers Barad-dur and Orthanc? someone else told me it was minas morgul and Barad-dur, or orthanc and minas morgul. i think they're wrong. help!
Author:  Lady Erana [ October 9th, 2006, 2:38 pm ]
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I believe they're wrong! TTT mainly is about Saruman betraying Sauron!
Author:  Captain Faramir [ October 9th, 2006, 2:53 pm ]
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Two Towers are Barad-dur and Isengard I think but the topic means here the union of the two towers I think as Saruman said in the movie.
Author:  Lady of Taniquetil [ October 9th, 2006, 3:09 pm ]
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ok. thanks. that's what i thought too, Captain Faramir.
Author:  Captain Faramir [ October 9th, 2006, 3:12 pm ]
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You are welcome anytime you can ask me :)
Author:  Fencing Maiden [ October 9th, 2006, 6:24 pm ]
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Captain Faramir wrote:
Two Towers are Barad-dur and Isengard I think but the topic means here the union of the two towers I think as Saruman said in the movie.


You beat me to it. :-D :duh:
Author:  Frodos-Guide [ October 11th, 2006, 12:11 pm ]
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Lady Erana wrote:
I believe they're wrong! TTT mainly is about Saruman betraying Sauron!



:O How so?
Author:  ethelfleda [ October 11th, 2006, 5:14 pm ]
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just like to point out here that i have seen the two towers - orthanc was inspired by a tower in birmingham (called perrot's folly, i think) and barad-dur was inspired by the radcliffe camera which is part of the bodleian library in oxford.

they look nothing like the film towers (the radcliffe camera isn't a tower at all) but they were still tolkien's inspiration and I'VE SEEN THEM BOTH!!!
Author:  Lady of Taniquetil [ October 11th, 2006, 5:40 pm ]
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AWESOME!!!!! :) *mutters quietly* Lucky... :annoyed2:
hehehe :):):)
Author:  ethelfleda [ October 12th, 2006, 4:58 am ]
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i also live in the county tolkien based the shire on (worcestershire); i've spent a night in exeter college, oxford university, which is where tolkien studied; and i'm currently studying english at leeds, where tolkien taught for a little while in the 1920s - just to make you a little bit more jealous ;)

anyway, back to the thread. i have no idea how to put pictures in messages, but here are shortcuts to pictures of the 'real' two towers:

perrot's folly in edgebaston, birmingham (orthanc)
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... en%26lr%3D

radcliffe camera, bodleain library, oxford (barad-dur)
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... en%26lr%3D

so now you can all see them. :-D

have to say, the radcliffe camera is an awesome building to stand in front of. tolkien was so lucky getting to study in oxford - i mean, that was his local library!
Author:  ErulissëEnethNîn [ October 13th, 2006, 5:32 pm ]
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Tolkien never states in the book exactly which two towers the title refers to. But PJ & Co decided it was Orthanc and Barad-dûr, so yeah those are the two towers in the film!
Author:  Princess of Ithilien [ October 14th, 2006, 7:11 pm ]
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I agree, one of the towers could even be Cirith Ungol because that's where Sam and Frodo are heading IN THE BOOK.
Author:  ethelfleda [ October 15th, 2006, 6:13 am ]
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seeing as this thread's in the "movie discussion" section i think we have to go with what the film makers decided and that's isengard and barad-dur. i agree that that's not necessarily what tolkien had in mind, but then i'm not sure he even came up with the title "the two towers" (i think it was the publishing company) so maybe he didn'tknow either.

i've finally learned how to post pictures, so here are photos of the towers that inspired tolkien (there's some more information about them in my posts further up):

perrot's folly (isengard)
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radcliffe camera (barad-dur)
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Author:  Legolas___101 [ October 17th, 2006, 8:05 pm ]
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whoa alot of different ideas! I always wondered the same question, isnt the two towers the one with the eye and the one that the Ent's flood?

I dont know the names of the towers though. lol
Author:  Lady of Taniquetil [ October 19th, 2006, 4:07 pm ]
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that's what everyone's agreeing on! :) hehehe. orthanc's the one with the ents, and Barad-dur is the one with the Eye.
Author:  Galadriel2812 [ October 21st, 2006, 5:11 pm ]
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ya! i like orthanc!!! with the eye and all that!! awesome
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