Brilliant!
I have kind of noticed, but I never payed that much attention to it.

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I'm sure it was a purposely placed meaning. I know it's present in the books and other writings of Tolkien, but I think PJ definately made a point to put that message across. The image that stands out most in my mind is when Frodo looks into Galadriel's mirror and sees the Shire as he remembered it, green and cheerful, but then the image changes to what it will become if he should fail. This potential future he sees is filled with smokestacks, smog and darkness, images that are usually associated with the negative aspects of industrialization.

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True Aerlinn. We do need to take responsibility for what we are doing to our planet. I think we can all agree on that... but when it comes to action... *shrugs*
But I think the explicit message in the movies was... misplaced... because of the associations I get to modern industry, like I mentioned earlier.


I think you and the others who have stated that it was very purposely placed. It's a good message becasue it can reach such a huge audience, but still... not sure I like it there...

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It is not PJ, it is Tolkien. Tolkien invented Treebeard first, and those lines were not changed (very much) from the book.

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Tolkien might have been an environmentalist too, and, like you said Miriel, many of Treebeard's lines in the movie are taken from the book, but PJ also made the choice of following up on the environmentalist theme. And the way he portrayed it in the movie like the tearing down the forest and the way the orcs worked made me think of modern movie about industrialism just for a moment.

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