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PostPosted: June 20th, 2007, 7:30 am 
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You are right, but they had to change the litle to much and thay had not enought time :(

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:disgust: :disgust: :disgust:

:annoyed: :annoyed: :annoyed:

:explode: :explode: :explode:

Don't get me started about "time"! If they wanted more time, why didn't they cut down some of the scenes that were pointless and were dragged out waaaaaaaaaaaaay too long???!!! :bones:

Oo...sorry... :confused2:

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~Miriel~ wrote:
Sorry, for double posting, but I was just thinking that it doesn't bother me that Haldir dies as much as it does the way his death was treated. Aragorn was angry after that, but it never shows Legolas remembering him, or Celeborn and Galadriel mourning for him; In fact even though Haldir helped save Helm's Deep it was like they didn't even care that he died. When they put in the dying scene it was like they just forgot about it and went on with the rest of the book. But that's totally unrealistic.


I agree it was like how they treated Theodon!

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~Miriel~ wrote:
Sorry, for double posting, but I was just thinking that it doesn't bother me that Haldir dies as much as it does the way his death was treated. Aragorn was angry after that, but it never shows Legolas remembering him, or Celeborn and Galadriel mourning for him; In fact even though Haldir helped save Helm's Deep it was like they didn't even care that he died. When they put in the dying scene it was like they just forgot about it and went on with the rest of the book. But that's totally unrealistic.

a very good point indeed. and you're wright the look on haldir's face, even just the thought about it makes me soooooooooo sad i wanna cry.... :'(


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~Miriel~ wrote:
Sorry, for double posting, but I was just thinking that it doesn't bother me that Haldir dies as much as it does the way his death was treated. Aragorn was angry after that, but it never shows Legolas remembering him, or Celeborn and Galadriel mourning for him; In fact even though Haldir helped save Helm's Deep it was like they didn't even care that he died. When they put in the dying scene it was like they just forgot about it and went on with the rest of the book. But that's totally unrealistic.

I agree, but as Telcontar said, there was not enough time to incorporate even more of what was not supposed to happen. And if they did as you said and cut down some of the extra scenes that were dragged out, then it would be even more inaccurate than it already was; a memorial for Haldir - a border GUARD - would be unrealistic, time consuming, and not contributing to the actual story.

Did we not get so enraged at Peter Jackson for changing so much of the story? If we had a Haldir memorial, that would have been even worse. Trust me, it really would. Though I would have wanted his death to be more honorable, dragging him further on into the story would have been a bit much.

I hated the way he died though. I would have preferred if Peter Jackson did not choose to have Haldir die on his knees.

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I agree it was like how they treated Theodon!

If you had read the book, you would have realized that they did take Théoden's body back to Rohan and gave him a proper funeral.

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it makes me sad to see elves die in the battle scene.some should have survived the battle.

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I did read the book, and I do know how they honored Theoden. But in the movies? :( I dunno about Ashwise but that is what I meant.

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Yeah they should have, but they didn't have a written part about it in the actual RotK book. But you know... Hama should have been the important character who died at Helm's Deep, not Haldir! :(

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Hama died at the warg attack. Didn't he? :annoyed:

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Yeah he did... that was pathetic. :disgust: He should have fallen at the Hornburg battle.

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Yeah, I agree that it would have made more sense if the humans all died instead of the Elves... and since that wouldn't work with the story, Peter Jackson shouldn't have brought them in at all! He made the Elves look like delicate porcelain dolls...

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Oh yeah somehow EVERY Elf ends up being killed... EXCEPT Legolas. How convenient!

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I think you've hit it, Aerlinn! :lol:

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I have missed this?! *gasp* My Haldir <3

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^ They probably needed someone for the girls to drool over! :annoyed:


And not everyone drools over him so that's just unfair. :annoyed2: He gets it all and he's not great at all. I could name a bunch of better Elves than Legolas.

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^But girls generally don't like porcelin dolls, so they had to keep at least one Elf realistic. :disgust:


I don't like the term 'porcelin doll'. That seems to discribe the Elves in negative term, like they're fragile. Pft. Stupid. Elves are not fragile. Their hearts may be but they are generally stronger than humans.

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when he dies it is so sad.

I was watching the dvd on my computer just now and I was almost crying. the music dosn't help. and when he sees all his dead freinds/war buddies, I was so sad too. That was terrible.


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I don't remember if I posted already or not. That was so sad! I cried! Haldir is like, one of my fav. charectors!

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