of course he'd die for Gondor...
*agrees with Éowyn* I also think that it would have taken everyone's mind away from the ring and all that..
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| Author: | Lady Erana [ May 25th, 2006, 2:51 am ] |
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I don't know what I would do if I hear that Éowyn dies... I would be shocked and couldn't react to anything... But, you're right, Haldir, it wouldn't make much sense if either Faramir or Éowyn die. It would just make everyone so sad that they couldn't realise the true interesting story, the destroying of the ring, anymore. They would be distracted... |
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| Author: | Captain Faramir [ May 25th, 2006, 10:52 am ] |
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Haldir o Lórien wrote: Faramir has such a kind heart and he's so sweet ... it would be really dumb to kill him off for no reason
There was a reason: to defend GOndor. He would not die for nothing. |
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| Author: | Fíriel_18190 [ May 25th, 2006, 4:09 pm ] |
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of course he'd die for Gondor... *agrees with Éowyn* I also think that it would have taken everyone's mind away from the ring and all that..
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| Author: | Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ May 25th, 2006, 6:08 pm ] |
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well duhh .. if he died for gondor, then what would become of him at the end of the story? it wouldnt work for Eowyn and Faramir to die |
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| Author: | Itarildë [ May 25th, 2006, 6:43 pm ] |
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I agree with Haldir. It simply wouldn't work with the story seeing as Eowyn fell hard for Aragorn and then got her heart broken. She deserved a happy ending. |
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| Author: | Lady Erana [ May 26th, 2006, 1:13 pm ] |
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I think it would be a too ending for Faramir: Burned by his own father! Should the House of the Stewards really end like this, Boromir killed in battle, Faramir wounded in battle and afterwards burned? And my beloved Éowyn slain by the Witchking... Éomer would be left alone, he has no family anymore, all are dead. I don't think that he could manage this loss easily and just get next king of Rohan... |
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| Author: | Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ May 26th, 2006, 5:54 pm ] |
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aww i know ... youre right Eowyn *agrees* poor Eomer |
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| Author: | Lady Erana [ May 28th, 2006, 2:48 am ] |
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Yes, poor Éomer... First he looses his parents, then his cousin, and then find the rest of his family dead on Pelennor fields. I can't imagine what he would feel and have to go through if this really would have taken place! |
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| Author: | Fíriel_18190 [ May 28th, 2006, 4:53 am ] |
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yes you're right. That would have been too sad. I don't know it somehow would have taken much of the hope in the books. |
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| Author: | Larael [ May 28th, 2006, 10:14 pm ] |
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Back on topic people... we're talking about how we would feel if Faramir and Eowyn had both died.
I dunno how I would react, I think it depends on if it happened in the movie or the book. Of course if it happened in the movie I would definitely be very angry at PJ for completely messing up the story plot. Now if it had happened in the book I would have been deeply grieved and confused as to why Tolkien decided that they should die. |
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| Author: | Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ May 28th, 2006, 10:16 pm ] |
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well PJ would actually not be really entitled to make sucha big change to the story tho ... so thats all good but it tolkien had done it then i would be destraught
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| Author: | Aduial-Galad [ May 29th, 2006, 12:08 am ] |
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Exactly Haldir. I mean, I do like Boromir, but I have to say, I love Faramir. A lot more so than Boromir anyway. And if Eowyn had died, after all she's been through? With her family, and after killing the witch king? It just wouldn't make sense. |
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| Author: | Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ May 29th, 2006, 12:10 am ] |
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Faramir dying would just be ugly ... he's the most sweetest character ... denethor deserved to die, but faramir sure didnt!!! *huggles faramir* |
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| Author: | Aduial-Galad [ May 29th, 2006, 1:03 am ] |
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Boo hiss, I hated Denethor! I really didn't like him. He was stuck up, ignorant and didn't listen to Gandalf! Baaaaad Idea!! And he completely neglected Faramir!...little off topic..hehe Iw ould never have forgiven tolkien had he killed Eowyn and Faramir. They deserved a happy ending after all they had been through! |
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| Author: | Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ May 29th, 2006, 7:00 am ] |
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too true ... but a lot of other characters had been through a lot, and died anyway |
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| Author: | Lady Erana [ May 29th, 2006, 7:38 am ] |
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Well, with Faramir it also depends on when and how he dies. Is he burned by Denethor or dies he during his attack on Osgiliath and was brought home to Denethor? The second one we haven't discussed yet I believe. I wonder, how Denethor would have reacted when he sees his son dead, as he has "wished" for. |
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