Rules      FAQ       Register        Login
It is currently April 27th, 2024, 2:45 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 53 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next

Do you consider it death for Frodo when he leaves to the 'undying lands'?
Poll ended at May 10th, 2006, 4:32 am
yes 50%  50%  [ 3 ]
no 50%  50%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 6
Author Message
 Post subject: Grey Havens - sad scene
PostPosted: April 30th, 2006, 4:32 am 
Half-elf
Half-elf
User avatar

Joined: 28 April 2006
Posts: 929
Location: Finland
Country: Finland (fi)

Offline
Hey every1!
When I watch the ROTK movie and come to the Grey Havens scene, I always start weeping and I can't help it. It's so sad when the three ring-bearers, Gandalf, and poor Frodo die/'sail to the unduying lands'... I consider it as death, you kno, a paradise where you can't come back from... sad, so sad. But I think it's best for Frodo to leave, you know he got these permanent injuries (mental and physical) that would torture him forever, if he was to stay. What do you think about the Greya Havens thingy?

_________________
Image

I revisited AU on Jan 14th after an almost 10-year break! The nostalgia..!


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: April 30th, 2006, 4:41 am 
Custom Rank
Custom Rank
User avatar

Joined: 03 November 2005
Posts: 9566
Location: Austria

Offline
Yes, also for me it's one of the saddests scenes in the whole trilogy. But I don't think that sailing to Valinor means sailing to death. For me Aman is the land where no one dies, where you can live forever and it is the most beautiful land, you can't imagine it's beauty.
I also have to cry every time I see this scene, but it helps me a lot to believe that Samwise is really going to sail there, too,but a bit later.

_________________
<center>Image
</center>


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: April 30th, 2006, 4:49 am 
Half-elf
Half-elf
User avatar

Joined: 28 April 2006
Posts: 929
Location: Finland
Country: Finland (fi)

Offline
Yeah, maybe, but Peregrin and Meriadoc don't sail there, do they? Legolas and Gimli builds a boat and sails there, so half the Fellowship end up there, Sam, Frodo,Legolas,Gandalf and Gimli. Yeah that makes sense what you just said, I thought that its a place where you go to die in peace or something like that...and that you cant see your friends anymore if they come there later. I thikn Valinor is a very beautiful name, as the place must be.

_________________
Image

I revisited AU on Jan 14th after an almost 10-year break! The nostalgia..!


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: April 30th, 2006, 4:57 am 
Custom Rank
Custom Rank
User avatar

Joined: 03 November 2005
Posts: 9566
Location: Austria

Offline
Eärlinde Elensar wrote:
Yeah, maybe, but Peregrin and Meriadoc don't sail there, do they? Legolas and Gimli builds a boat and sails there, so half the Fellowship end up there, Sam, Frodo,Legolas,Gandalf and Gimli.


I think Merry and Pippin are more bound to Middle Earth than Frodo. He and Sam already thought they would have to die 100% when they laid outside of Mount Doom and the Eagles picked them up. So it was easy for Frodo to let go. For Sam it was a bit more difficult, he had a family. but when Rosie died, i think he really wanted to do everything to get to his best friend, Frodo. And Sam also has been a Ringbearer.

_________________
<center>Image
</center>


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: April 30th, 2006, 10:20 am 
Balrog
Balrog

Joined: 24 June 2005
Posts: 3759
Location: Berlin
Country: Germany (de)
Gender: Female

Offline
Yes that's what I think as well... at first this scene was really sad for me and it made me cry everytime, but now I really like this scene, it's my fav in the whole trilogy, because it's the best thing for Frodo and Gandalf was able to go home again at last. But I think it's very sad that the elves had to leave, because they were such an important part of middle-earth for a very long time, but on the other hand they can go back to the place they once came from...

_________________
[!+~^$#&:;]


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: April 30th, 2006, 10:24 am 
Custom Rank
Custom Rank
User avatar

Joined: 03 November 2005
Posts: 9566
Location: Austria

Offline
Well, I always asked myself: Why did they had to leave?
They "woke up" at Cuivienen and then those who wanted to went with Orome to Valinor, the others stayed. So why should they have to leave Middle Earth?

_________________
<center>Image
</center>


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: April 30th, 2006, 10:34 am 
Rider of Rohan
Rider of Rohan
User avatar

Joined: 28 January 2006
Posts: 128
Location: Iceland

Offline
I think it's a sad Scene,because you are saying goodbye to your best mate and you don't know if you ever will see him again.I cry every time when i watch the Scene.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile       WWW            
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: May 13th, 2006, 2:50 am 
Rider of Rohan
Rider of Rohan
User avatar

Joined: 13 May 2006
Posts: 117
Location: Chicago

Offline
I cry every single time during this scene no matter what. Out of the billion times I've seen it, it always gets to me. Definatly sad because you know they are not dying, just leaving forever :(

_________________
Image

The Hobbit is coming!!!!


Top
 Profile       WWW     YIM        
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: May 13th, 2006, 2:08 pm 
Istari
Istari
User avatar

Joined: 04 June 2005
Posts: 2671
Location: the Netherlands

Offline
It's a sad scene, but it's beautiful. It's a perfect ending for the trilogy.


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: May 13th, 2006, 5:20 pm 
Balrog
Balrog

Joined: 24 June 2005
Posts: 3759
Location: Berlin
Country: Germany (de)
Gender: Female

Offline
^
that is what I also think... at first I thought that this was a terrible ending for LotR, but now I think it's really a very good ending

_________________
[!+~^$#&:;]


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: May 13th, 2006, 10:08 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: 03 June 2005
Posts: 13144
Location: Heaven: Rockin' with Severus Snape
Country: England (en)
Gender: Female

Offline
I too consider the Undying Lands to be a kind of heaven in a sense. They are leaving there physical world behind and going to another which is not part of Arda. It's completely different world, and so it's like they are indeed dying.


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: May 15th, 2006, 11:20 am 
Dunadan
Dunadan
User avatar

Joined: 12 May 2006
Posts: 473
Location: Comyn Castle, Thendara City

Offline
Yes, yes definately a sad scene!!! It always makes me cry a lot!

_________________
I may not be perfect but at least I'm Welsh.
Mae hen wlad fy nhadau ...

Pm me for: !~+$?&

The bookmad A-U Gentlewoman

Image

Formerly Arawn
Banner by Elenriel Greenleaf


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: May 17th, 2006, 4:53 pm 
Rider of Rohan
Rider of Rohan
User avatar

Joined: 28 April 2006
Posts: 100
Location: California

Offline
The telling of that scene in the movie was one of the most unhurried, carefully cut scenes of any I've ever seen in film. It does get me every single time I watch it.

Elijah's smile back at them is perfect, too. As if to say "Don't worry about me."

It's also very brief, but they even showed Cirdan standing in the background (the original bearer of Narya, the Ring of Fire, which Gandalf has) Cirdan only shows up previously in the Prologue.

Attention to detail was just grand with this scene.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: May 17th, 2006, 5:01 pm 
Rider of Rohan
Rider of Rohan
User avatar

Joined: 13 May 2006
Posts: 117
Location: Chicago

Offline
Im crying just thinking about it :lol:

_________________
Image

The Hobbit is coming!!!!


Top
 Profile       WWW     YIM        
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: May 30th, 2006, 12:11 am 
Elf
Elf
User avatar

Joined: 22 December 2005
Posts: 1363
Location: The gap between dimensions

Offline
No, I do not see it as death, just leaving :p

_________________
<center>~*The Not-Too-Much-Obsessed-With-Nature A-U Gentle-Woman*~<center>
"To hate, or not to hate. This shouldn't be a question."
Image
Image
~*PM Me for graphics*~


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: June 1st, 2006, 12:01 pm 
Ent
Ent
User avatar

Joined: 24 May 2006
Posts: 707
Location: Middle Earth

Offline
When I first saw the movie in the theatre me and my best friend cried becuz we were happy and we were sad at the sametime cuz you want frodo to leave and be at peace. Then again you want him to stay becuz now sam is sad.

_________________
Th'wayla;]

<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x139/Rachel_Cullen/untitled2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>


Proud Member of the Arwen Club


Top
 Profile                  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 53 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 32 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  




Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Boyz theme by Zarron Media 2003