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Post subject: Grey Havens - sad scene Posted: April 30th, 2006, 4:32 am |
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Hey every1!
When I watch the ROTK movie and come to the Grey Havens scene, I always start weeping and I can't help it. It's so sad when the three ring-bearers, Gandalf, and poor Frodo die/'sail to the unduying lands'... I consider it as death, you kno, a paradise where you can't come back from... sad, so sad. But I think it's best for Frodo to leave, you know he got these permanent injuries (mental and physical) that would torture him forever, if he was to stay. What do you think about the Greya Havens thingy?
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Post subject: Posted: April 30th, 2006, 4:41 am |
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Joined: 03 November 2005 Posts: 9566 Location: Austria
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Yes, also for me it's one of the saddests scenes in the whole trilogy. But I don't think that sailing to Valinor means sailing to death. For me Aman is the land where no one dies, where you can live forever and it is the most beautiful land, you can't imagine it's beauty.
I also have to cry every time I see this scene, but it helps me a lot to believe that Samwise is really going to sail there, too,but a bit later.
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Post subject: Posted: April 30th, 2006, 4:49 am |
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Yeah, maybe, but Peregrin and Meriadoc don't sail there, do they? Legolas and Gimli builds a boat and sails there, so half the Fellowship end up there, Sam, Frodo,Legolas,Gandalf and Gimli. Yeah that makes sense what you just said, I thought that its a place where you go to die in peace or something like that...and that you cant see your friends anymore if they come there later. I thikn Valinor is a very beautiful name, as the place must be.
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Post subject: Posted: April 30th, 2006, 4:57 am |
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Eärlinde Elensar wrote: Yeah, maybe, but Peregrin and Meriadoc don't sail there, do they? Legolas and Gimli builds a boat and sails there, so half the Fellowship end up there, Sam, Frodo,Legolas,Gandalf and Gimli.
I think Merry and Pippin are more bound to Middle Earth than Frodo. He and Sam already thought they would have to die 100% when they laid outside of Mount Doom and the Eagles picked them up. So it was easy for Frodo to let go. For Sam it was a bit more difficult, he had a family. but when Rosie died, i think he really wanted to do everything to get to his best friend, Frodo. And Sam also has been a Ringbearer.
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Post subject: Posted: April 30th, 2006, 10:20 am |
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Yes that's what I think as well... at first this scene was really sad for me and it made me cry everytime, but now I really like this scene, it's my fav in the whole trilogy, because it's the best thing for Frodo and Gandalf was able to go home again at last. But I think it's very sad that the elves had to leave, because they were such an important part of middle-earth for a very long time, but on the other hand they can go back to the place they once came from...
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Post subject: Posted: April 30th, 2006, 10:24 am |
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Well, I always asked myself: Why did they had to leave?
They "woke up" at Cuivienen and then those who wanted to went with Orome to Valinor, the others stayed. So why should they have to leave Middle Earth?
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Post subject: Posted: April 30th, 2006, 10:34 am |
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Joined: 28 January 2006 Posts: 128 Location: Iceland
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I think it's a sad Scene,because you are saying goodbye to your best mate and you don't know if you ever will see him again.I cry every time when i watch the Scene.
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Post subject: Posted: May 13th, 2006, 2:50 am |
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Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 117 Location: Chicago
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I cry every single time during this scene no matter what. Out of the billion times I've seen it, it always gets to me. Definatly sad because you know they are not dying, just leaving forever
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Post subject: Posted: May 13th, 2006, 2:08 pm |
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Joined: 04 June 2005 Posts: 2671 Location: the Netherlands
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It's a sad scene, but it's beautiful. It's a perfect ending for the trilogy.
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Post subject: Posted: May 13th, 2006, 5:20 pm |
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that is what I also think... at first I thought that this was a terrible ending for LotR, but now I think it's really a very good ending
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Post subject: Posted: May 13th, 2006, 10:08 pm |
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I too consider the Undying Lands to be a kind of heaven in a sense. They are leaving there physical world behind and going to another which is not part of Arda. It's completely different world, and so it's like they are indeed dying.
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Post subject: Posted: May 15th, 2006, 11:20 am |
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Yes, yes definately a sad scene!!! It always makes me cry a lot!
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Post subject: Posted: May 17th, 2006, 4:53 pm |
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Joined: 28 April 2006 Posts: 100 Location: California
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The telling of that scene in the movie was one of the most unhurried, carefully cut scenes of any I've ever seen in film. It does get me every single time I watch it.
Elijah's smile back at them is perfect, too. As if to say "Don't worry about me."
It's also very brief, but they even showed Cirdan standing in the background (the original bearer of Narya, the Ring of Fire, which Gandalf has) Cirdan only shows up previously in the Prologue.
Attention to detail was just grand with this scene.
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Post subject: Posted: May 17th, 2006, 5:01 pm |
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Im crying just thinking about it
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Post subject: Posted: May 30th, 2006, 12:11 am |
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No, I do not see it as death, just leaving
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Post subject: Posted: June 1st, 2006, 12:01 pm |
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Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 707 Location: Middle Earth
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When I first saw the movie in the theatre me and my best friend cried becuz we were happy and we were sad at the sametime cuz you want frodo to leave and be at peace. Then again you want him to stay becuz now sam is sad.
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