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Why didn't they send Gwaihir?
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Author:  Will [ July 24th, 2006, 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Why didn't they send Gwaihir?
A few days ago I came across this hilarious video "How it should have ended" In the Council of Elrond Gandalf comes up with the plan to send Gwaihir the Windlord with Frodo to destroy the Ring.

i just thought about that.. Why didn't they send Gwaihir? After all the eagles could pick Frodo and Sam up from Mount Doom.

Sorry if this is a stupid question.. :closedeyes:
Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ July 24th, 2006, 8:11 pm ]
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The eagles aren't commanded by anyone else in Middle-earth. They try to limit the number of times they carry anyone since they're not pack animals. They don't have any sort of alliance with the 'Good' armies except the fact that they're all against the 'Bad' armies. They will fight the Bad armies but they're not doing it for anyone else. Except maybe Gandalf because him and Gwaihir are buddies. But Gwaihir won't even carry Gandalf to far.

Here's something interesting I found on a site:

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In some of his texts Tolkien speculated that these great Eagles were actually Maiar in bird-shape, as he felt it unlikely Ilúvatar would grant fëa to animals.
If this is true, then Roäc the Raven and the Thrush, who appear in The Hobbit, might also be Maiar or other spirits in animal form (and possibly even Beorn, who sometimes takes the form of a bear).
Author:  Will [ July 25th, 2006, 4:58 am ]
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Hhmm that makes sense. But still doing that for such an important mission to destroy all evil.. Would that be too much to ask..?
Author:  Faithless [ July 25th, 2006, 6:46 pm ]
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I agree with Haldir o Lórien the eagles arnt controlled by anyone they just come when they come. Plus it wouldent be an interesting story and not very long if tolkien just had the eagles coming and flying over mountdoom and destroying the ring :-D
Author:  Will [ July 25th, 2006, 6:55 pm ]
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Hehehe :-D Agreed. Would be much easier though. :P
Author:  Meldawen [ July 27th, 2006, 11:12 am ]
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I don't think even the eagles could have made it into Mordor, don't you think Sauron would have shot fire at them or something? They'd be so painfully obvious.
Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ July 27th, 2006, 1:44 pm ]
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LOL since when did Sauron shoot fire?
Author:  Faithless [ July 27th, 2006, 3:29 pm ]
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Lol no offence but maybe he meant when the volvano blows it shot the rocks off of it.
Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ July 27th, 2006, 4:58 pm ]
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Faithless wrote:
Lol no offence but maybe he meant when the volvano blows it shot the rocks off of it.


How is that offensive? :huh:

1. That wouldn't be Sauron shooting fire at them, that would be Mount Doom
2. Meldawen is a "she"
3. Sauron has never shot fire
4. You spelled "volcano" wrong
Author:  Will [ July 27th, 2006, 6:19 pm ]
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Hmm I don't think Sauron shoots fire.. :P But they would be very obvious indeed.
Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ July 27th, 2006, 6:21 pm ]
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Yeah no kidding about obvious!! :P ... but Sauron is in the form of an Eye ... that can't shoot fire :eyeroll:
Author:  Will [ July 27th, 2006, 6:30 pm ]
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Maybe he can send lasers.. ! :lol:
Author:  Meldawen [ July 28th, 2006, 11:43 am ]
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'Kay, scratch the whole shooting fire thing. I dunno. But here's an idea - Frodo has to actually get off an eagle and enter the Cracks of Doom. Since they were so obvious, wouldn't Sauron have orcs there waiting for them?
Author:  Aredhel Ar-Feiniel [ July 28th, 2006, 2:10 pm ]
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Most likely :P ... they would have been caught on their way to Mount Doom :yes:
Author:  Meldawen [ July 28th, 2006, 6:18 pm ]
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*Is aware that this is still not a very good reason* I dunno, it wouldn't have been much of a story if they had just used the Eagles. I think that's a pretty good reason in itself.
Author:  Sapphire [ July 28th, 2006, 7:18 pm ]
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Well hey, if Sauron is a Maia (sp?) then I'm sure it's possible he could do whatever he wanted too to get rid of eagles! :P
Gandalf didn't send the eagles because that would have been waayy to noticible don't you think? Frodo was sent because of his "unlikiness" to be the Ringbearer.
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