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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: July 30th, 2011, 7:01 pm 
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David's real accent is lovely, isn't it :-D? Two possible reasons come to mind for me. One, DW is, and always has been, a quintessentially British show, so it wouldn't very well do to have a Scottish-sounding Doctor, now, would it ;-)? A rather dumb reason, if you ask me, but whatever. *Rolls eyes and smiles* Two, some American viewers (probably a rather large number, actually, now that I think about it) probably find it difficult to understand a Scottish accent, so if David hadn't altered the way he spoke during his tenure as Ten, it's very likely subtitles would have been on constantly. Personally, I'm able to understand a Scottish accent just fine, but when my mom and I have watched something that has a predominantly UK cast, she relatively regularly says she can't understand what's being said, so I sort of translate for her :].

While we're on the subject of actors not using their real accents, here's something you might not know (or maybe you do, I'm not sure :}): John Barrowman, who played Captain Jack in Doctor Who and now plays him in Torchwood, is also Scottish, I kid you not. He only uses his "real" accent when he's not acting or doing interviews for a show he's in, though. The rest of the time, he maintains his American one, for lack of a better description.

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: July 31st, 2011, 9:46 pm 
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Anameleth wrote:
Okay, so. I'm rewatching Doctor Who, and right now I'm watching 2.3: Tooth and claw. And all I can think is, if David Tennant is Scottish, why on earth isn't Ten?! Why'd they have him do a "normal" (for lack of a better word) British accent when Scottish is so glorious?

Well I guess it's the one thing that remains constant through out all of the Doctors. He may change bodies but not accent.

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: August 1st, 2011, 4:40 pm 
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@johnny&orlifan: well, Scots are still Britons. And as it's a British show, not an English one, that doesn't really make sense to me. But I get what you mean.

@Timelord: I get what you mean, too, but still, they all have different accent. I mean, it's remarked several times that Nine has a 'Northern accent', so why couldn't they do a Scottish Doctor?

But yeah, there probably is a very simple reason, I just would've loved to hear David's real accent all the time ;)

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: August 1st, 2011, 5:33 pm 
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True :yes:. Even though "Great Britain" (or the other name, the United Kingdom) really refers to all the countries/provinces that make up the landmass, I guess I still see them as separate entities, so "British", to me, refers to England only :blush:. *Shrugs* If anything like what I suggested above crossed the minds of the reboot's creators, though, it's still a somewhat valid guess :].
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there probably is a very simple reason, I just would've loved to hear David's real accent all the time ;)
Oh, you're far from the only one, believe me ;). I would've loved to hear it, too :yes:. All English accents are nice to listen to, but at least for me, some are more apt to cause :drool:ing and :swoon:ing than others (e.g. Jack Davenport's, if you know who that is). A Scottish or Irish accent, on the other hand, makes me :drool: and :swoon: no matter what region of said country/province the gentleman happens to be from :p.

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: August 1st, 2011, 7:02 pm 
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Maybe they should have had him use his real accent in the episode where he became human. He was hiding after all.

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: August 2nd, 2011, 6:44 pm 
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Excellent point :yes:. That would have made sense. I wonder why they didn't do it :confused:? Hmmm... .Oh well, we got to hear it once at least, so that was nice 8).

Also, I'm guessing you've been a member for the last couple of months or so, but I wanted to welcome you to the site and the thread 8). So, :hiya:!

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: August 2nd, 2011, 7:27 pm 
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Thanks for the welcome. Glad to be here.

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: August 3rd, 2011, 10:07 pm 
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Sure :happy:. We're glad to have you 8).

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: August 6th, 2011, 5:30 pm 
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johnny&orlifan6422 wrote:
Excellent point :yes:. That would have made sense. I wonder why they didn't do it :confused:? Hmmm... .Oh well, we got to hear it once at least, so that was nice 8).


Well, that goes back to what you guys said earlier. It's the Doctor hiding, not David Tennant. The Doctor is English, so for him to suddenly have a Scottish accent when he became human, would've been confusing.

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: August 7th, 2011, 6:56 pm 
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Technically speaking the Doctor is not English he's Gallifreyan.

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: August 8th, 2011, 3:59 am 
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True enough :P But like you said, he speaks English. Or, you know, the TARDIS translates Gallifreyan into English ;)

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: August 8th, 2011, 7:52 am 
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Anameleth wrote:
Or, you know, the TARDIS translates Gallifreyan into English ;)


But it doesn't translate Gallifreyan writing. . . .cos we still don't have a clue of what any of that says!

Yesterday I learned that Gallifrey was spelt with 2 Ls. :(

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: August 8th, 2011, 1:10 pm 
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No, that's true. The Doctor does speak English, I just remembered that Rose once said that the Doctor looks human, and he replied that no, Rose looks timelord. So it was a silly attempt at a joke :P

I wonder if we'll ever get to know what the Gallifreyan writing on River Song's cradle says. That's the only place we've seen any of it, right?

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: August 8th, 2011, 4:54 pm 
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Anameleth wrote:
No, that's true. The Doctor does speak English, I just remembered that Rose once said that the Doctor looks human, and he replied that no, Rose looks timelord. So it was a silly attempt at a joke :P

I wonder if we'll ever get to know what the Gallifreyan writing on River Song's cradle says. That's the only place we've seen any of it, right?


No, the second episode with River Song. She wrote in Gallifreyan on top of the "black box".

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PostPosted: August 17th, 2011, 7:01 pm 
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I've got a theory for you all.

A while back, on Tumblr, someone posted a theory about how Eleven's bow tie changes color based on whether he goes forwards or backwards in time, and then someone else added that this is true for Ten's suits as well. I don't know about the bow tie, but I disproved the suit theory just by watching a couple of episodes.

What they said was that when he goes forwards in time, his suit is brown, and when he goes backwards, it is blue (or the other way around, I don't remember and anyways that's not important). Watching an episode where he went forwards in time wearing the "wrong" suit quickly proved the theory wrong. But then, watching a couple more episodes, I thought I could see a different suit pattern. By now I'm pretty sure I'm right. For all I know, you all have had this figured out for ages, but I thought I'd share anyway just in case.

So my theory is, when the Doctor is interacting with humans he's got the brown suit on. When he's interacting with aliens, he's got the blue suit on. Examples (you might not want to read this if you haven't seen Series 4 yet):

Silence in the Library - villain is the Vashta Nerada - Doctor wears blue suit
The Unicorn and the Wasp - villain is a human turning into a wasp - Doctor wears brown suit
Utopia - everyone's human, even the Time Lord villain thinks he is - Doctor wears brown suit
Voyage of the Damned - everyone he interacts with is non-human (except Wilf, of course) - Doctor starts out wearing blue suit
The Doctor's Daugther - artificial humans and Haths - Doctor wears blue suit

Obviously all of these examples are from Series 4, but I think it's fair to say they're extensive enough that the same can be assumed for Series 2 and 3 as well (also I've only got the box set of s.4 so those episodes are the only ones I've got pictures of :teehee: )

This is getting long, but I didn't want to just post three lines about a theory without backing it up with "proof". What do you all think, though? Also, is this old news? I'd love it if it wasn't :P

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 Post subject: Re: The Dr Who Fanclub
PostPosted: August 18th, 2011, 5:59 pm 
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Ooh, interesting =)! I wonder what the point of that wardrobe decision was? It had to have been more than just to differentiate Ten's interactions with aliens from his interactions with humans.

I think I've seen some form of the theory about Eleven's bow tie elsewhere, but I don't know if it's been proven or disproven as yet. It would be interesting, and very helpful, if that were true, given the timey-wiminess of S5 and S6 thus far :p.

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