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Post subject: The syntax of The Hobbit Posted: June 23rd, 2011, 5:07 pm |
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I re-read The Hobbit recently and was quite struck at the difference in syntax and narrator "voice" within the text. The particular thing which stood out to me was that Tolkien seems to address the reader directly, and often asks questions of them or makes observations for their benefit. Another thing I noticed was the repetitive nature of some of his statements, for example, "and not for the last time" is used quite often in reference to certain thoughts of Bilbo. Has anyone else found this curious? If so, I'd love to discuss it more.
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Post subject: Re: The syntax of The Hobbit Posted: June 23rd, 2011, 11:03 pm |
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I did notice the narration was different in this one, probably because its a little bit more like a childrens story than LotR is. I kind of enjoy the narration, there are times it makes me think of sitting by a fire and being told the story, rather sitting there reading it. Does that make sense? It makes me feel in a way involved with the story.
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Post subject: Re: The syntax of The Hobbit Posted: August 18th, 2011, 1:07 am |
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I also noticed this, and I agree with Lithoniel. The Hobbit seems to be more appropriate for a children's story- I think Tolkien even wrote it for the purpose of amusing his children. Even though it deals with serious themes, it is still much lighter in tone than LotR. The narration is more directly addressed to the reader, and like Lithoniel said, it seems like the perfect book to read aloud. It's been a while since I last read it, but if I remember correctly, it seems like Tolkien tells the story in a much more lighthearted way than LotR? Like through repetition and such, like you said Freya?
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Post subject: Re: The syntax of The Hobbit Posted: December 29th, 2011, 11:47 pm |
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I think it was written to help engage the reader in the story and it would probably have been good for childern to make them think more about what was going on in the story. Maybe that's why so many people liked it.
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Post subject: Re: The syntax of The Hobbit Posted: December 30th, 2011, 12:38 am |
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True, it does sort of engage the reader in the story. I really enjoy the style of narration he used in The Hobbit, it fit really well with what the story was, while the more mature and normal form of narration was used for LotR, a more mature story.
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Post subject: Re: The syntax of The Hobbit Posted: November 3rd, 2012, 6:49 pm |
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I just finished the Hobbit, and I was curious if anyone else noticed a distinct change in tone after the death of Smaug. At that point, I think Tolkien switches over to style much more like LotR, and starts slipping in the elvish names and Middle-earth history. For instance, he starts calling Lake-town 'Esgaroth' and names the old lords of Dale 'Girion' and the goblin general 'Bolg.' To me, this a big change from the way he broadly refers to 'The Goblin-King' and 'The Elvenking.' And the whole tone of the book becomes remarkably mature, especially during the parley bit, which is also the point where the moral ambiguity starts in, and our heroes (Thorin and the dwarves) sudden become the enemy. That is such a big change from what came before, and I like it even more because I feel as though we grow along with Bilbo, who really does act and talk completely different during his return journey than he did at the beginning.
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Post subject: Re: The syntax of The Hobbit Posted: November 3rd, 2012, 11:39 pm |
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I never noticed that until you mentioned it, but the tone does seem to change and become more mature as though reflecting the characters growth. That's what I love about Tolkien, no matter how many times you read the books you can always catch or learn something new each time.
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Post subject: Re: The syntax of The Hobbit Posted: November 4th, 2012, 12:29 am |
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I feel like I really need to actually read the Hobbit now to fully get a grasp on what your saying. The ways I've heard the story was either on tape or having it read to me when I was younger. And now that I think of it, I don't think I've ever finished it.
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