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Post subject:  Posted: January 29th, 2007, 10:16 pm |
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Wasn't Sauron the most beautiful being? I'm pretty sure I read or saw somewhere that he had been beautiful, and then was corrupted.
Voldemort wasn't evil when he was a kid. He only picked on the people smaller than him. Who doesn't do that?
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Post subject: Posted: January 29th, 2007, 10:47 pm |
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but that's still evil, i mean he hung rabbits!! does anyone listen to MuggleCast? On episode 73, they were talking about how Voldmort was always evil. I agree, i think he was born evil!  _________________ <center>
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Post subject: Posted: January 29th, 2007, 10:54 pm |
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But you have to think about his parent's influence on his life too. His dad left, his mom (as we saw in the 6th) wasn't all that "there" for him, he was in an orphanage...it would've been tough knowing your dad didn't want you. So he could've been good, we never know.
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Post subject: Posted: January 29th, 2007, 11:04 pm |
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Yes. And perhaps his whole family plays a part in it too. Afterall, in the sixth book, it says their family was unstable due to marrying their own cousins. So that might've been a part of Voldemort's evilness, unstability.
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Post subject: Posted: January 29th, 2007, 11:12 pm |
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Yep, Voldie was a bad egg from the beginning.  How Voldemort always calls Muggleborns mudbloods and filthy, when he himself is not a pureblood???
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Post subject: Posted: January 29th, 2007, 11:34 pm |
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Yeah, that never made any sense
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Post subject: Posted: January 30th, 2007, 2:29 am |
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I didn't really get that either.
So, does anybody know for sure on the whole Sauron thing?
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Post subject: Posted: January 30th, 2007, 12:13 pm |
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No idea  But on the Voldemort thing, it's basic psychology (or something beginning with psych) that if you call someone a particular name, you are subconsciously believing that you are the same, but you call other people that name to hide your emotional insecurity and to make your subconscious think that you are not alone _________________ <center>
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Post subject: Posted: January 30th, 2007, 12:16 pm |
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Hehe...I have know idea what you just said.  _________________ <center> </center>
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Post subject: Posted: January 30th, 2007, 1:49 pm |
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Arrgh you know what I really don't like?? Yep, it's forum members saying that all other members can't discuss properly and all that stuff. They have no idea what the others are actually like do they??
Oh well.. anyway change of topic..
I do understand what u say bow_and_arrow. I've already seen a lot of this with other persons.
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Post subject: Posted: January 30th, 2007, 2:02 pm |
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Fíriel_18190 wrote: Arrgh you know what I really don't like?? Yep, it's forum members saying that all other members can't discuss properly and all that stuff. They have no idea what the others are actually like do they??
Oh well.. anyway change of topic..
I do understand what u say bow_and_arrow. I've already seen a lot of this with other persons.
Are you meaning me? If so, all I said was that I don't understand what bow_and_arrow said. I seriously don't, I got confused. I get confused easily, though. _________________ <center> </center>
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Post subject: Posted: January 30th, 2007, 3:04 pm |
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Hey, hey, don't get all in a fluster about things. Maybe bow_and_arrow could explain again if DarkPalantir is still muddled. There's no need to get annoyed, I'm sure it was just a situation of crossed wires.
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Wy are people arguing...don't argue or i will call on Shelob to eat you all. *throws paint at eveyone*
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Post subject: Posted: January 30th, 2007, 4:38 pm |
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Quote: Wasn't Sauron the most beautiful being? I'm pretty sure I read or saw somewhere that he had been beautiful, and then was corrupted. Morgoth, the first dark lord, was the most gifted of the Valar, and turned evil because he wanted power. Sauron is a Maia, one of the most powerful, and I believe he was good at one time, but then fell under the rule of Morgoth and was thus corrupted. bow_and_arrow wrote: No idea But on the Voldemort thing, it's basic psychology (or something beginning with psych) that if you call someone a particular name, you are subconsciously believing that you are the same, but you call other people that name to hide your emotional insecurity and to make your subconscious think that you are not alone  Also, Voldemort was disgusted by his muggle father. So he's kind of trying to get back at him by killing other muggles, and muggleborns.
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Post subject: Posted: January 30th, 2007, 6:33 pm |
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Beriadanwen wrote: Quote: Wasn't Sauron the most beautiful being? I'm pretty sure I read or saw somewhere that he had been beautiful, and then was corrupted. Morgoth, the first dark lord, was the most gifted of the Valar, and turned evil because he wanted power. Sauron is a Maia, one of the most powerful, and I believe he was good at one time, but then fell under the rule of Morgoth and was thus corrupted. Sauron also was able to take the form of a beautiful being. He was captured by Ar-Pharazon and taken to Numenor, where he had a guise of beauty --and corrupted most of the Numenorians. After the fall of Numenor he was unable to take a beautiful form again. _________________ going on a journey through my old claims
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Post subject: Posted: January 30th, 2007, 7:55 pm |
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Then we have the case of Melkor....the ugly.
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