*closes Deathly Hallows* *falls down on bed and lets everything wash over her*

That. Was. Brilliant! I just feel so relieved, I was really really worried that Harry might die back there. Or Ron/Hermione. I read a lot of interviews about Rowling saying that "I always knew how Harry's story was going to end," and that scared me bad.

But yes, I agree with all of you. That many deaths are too much to take. Especially Fred. The twins were brilliant. I think it's safe to assume now that George won't be the same...

My heart seemed to stop for a bit when Lupin died, a lot like when Sirius did. None of the Marauders are left...

And Snape was huge. I held my faith in him up til Dumbledore's death, but after that...well, everyone loves Dumbledore. But that whole thing about him loving Lily, and saving Harry just for her, especially him clutching the note from her giving lots of love, that was just heartbreaking. I think Rowling put that in just as a bit of a shocker for everyone who was always going, "Well Dumbledore trusted Snape, and looked what happened to him." And then, for Snape to die such a horrible death, that was terrible.

The epilogue was all right I guess. I've been for Harry/Ginny since HBP, so I didn't mind at all. I wanted one of their kids' names to be Sirius too, but I guess it could be James's middle name. I just wanna know who's kid Victoire is, could be George or Percy's, Bill's or Charlie's probably wouldn't fit seeing as how they're so much older.

I think Rowling included Malfoy in the end because she wanted to show that things were all right with them I guess. Him giving a "curt nod" seemed a bit rude though, I mean, how many times has Harry saved his life?

And yes Potterwatch was really good. Lee's amazing, I wish they showed more of him in the movies.

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Is Sirus Black mentioned in Deathly Hallows or do they say what is behind the veil?

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I loved all the book except the epilogue. I mean, just look at all the open opportunities for plot bunnies! Tar has already read my two ideas and part of a chapter.

One concerns Draco for all you disappointed with how he, the greatest and most ignored character in all history, turned out after the battle. =]] If you would read, it would be nice.

Anyway, the epilogue continues to make me sick. Although, I'm pretty sure Victoire is Bill and Fleur's daughter and her name has something to do with the victory over Voldy... I was actually thinking about this possibility late last night and came to a comical conclusion. If they were to marry and have babies, said babies would be part wizard, part werewolf, and part veela. Isn't that interesting?

I don't think JK ruined the whole series, though; I think she just didn't do the expected.

And as for the Albus versus Sirius name thing... I refuse to believe James's middle name is anything other then Sirius. Just like I refuse to believe anything other then Lily's middle is Minerva. =]]

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Ashwise - Sirius does come for a tiny bit, but no, they don't talk about what's behind the veil.

Emri - Fleur's part veela?

I wonder who Draco married though...God I hope it's not that Parkinson girl.

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I don't think so. I refuse to believe Drakey is that stupid.

yeah, somewhere in book 4 it says she's part Veela...

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Ashwise: Brilliant point that you brought up! I can't believe I didn't realize the veil wasn't mentioned at ALL!! What on earth?!!

Emri: Perhaps I've overreacted...oh wait--no I haven't. XD I suppose it's because I agree with you. That had there NOT been an epilogue...I would have been alright. It's just the thought of Ginny and Harry together that bothers me.
And actually, the REAL reason I'm so pissed off is because of this "happily ever after" ending. It's total bull *beep*! Lots of people may have died...and that may have been enough for her (JK) to redeem the happily ever after. But not for me. I don't think it's right to be given back your life for sacrificing yourself. I think he should have died right there. Accepting his fate. And I didn't mind that had Harry actually died then and there...I didn't mind the idea that my dear Voldie was going to too.
But I will say this...before my dear Voldie's death, I liked how when Harry spoke to him, he called him Tom. That to me, was brilliant. Finally stepping up and not doing what Voldie wanted, by calling him the name he made up. I thought that was a nice touch. But ruined by the "happily ever after."
God damn it all to hell!

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I don't think Harry really died at that point, merely that the bit of Voldy's soul died and Harry had to go with it to be confronted with the choice of death or life for himself. The struggling little thing was the bit of soul, I think, and it was beyond help as Dumbledore said.

I do agree the happily ever after was wrong, though. After so much bad had happened, there was no way it would all turn out so perfectly. Sickening. Not to mention she didn't give us an inkling on what happened to characters like Neville, Dean, Seamus, and Luna. Nothing at all. She also didn't say anything about Lavender Brown, and if she was a werewolf or not.

But rather than dwell on things that make us angry, why not focus on good things? I adored how spunky Neville's little old gran was. Hilarious. And Kingsley. Much love for both him and Lee. Mostly for Lee, but still. Then there was the whole thing where Ron backed out of the search under the influence of the locket. I dunno why I liked that so much. Then there was Godric's Hollow. Now all us who read and write those nice little Marauderer's fictions know exactly how old they were.

And now we know, like, everyone's middle name. It's great!

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Oh wow I never thought of that thing being Voldy's soul. It does make perfect sense though.

I dunno, I would've been devastated if Harry had died. After coming all this way, escaping him so many times, just to die in the end, even if it was to destroy Voldy, fans would've been breaking Rowling's door down. I don't think the story would've been complete if Harry hadn't finally survived. Heh heh, guess I'm a sucker for happy endings.

And Rowling did let us know about Neville - he's teaching Herbology. And I'm pretty sure that Kingsley stayed Minister of Magic.

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Well, he didn't die...I was just saying, HAD he died...I would have been a very happy woman.
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*sigh*

After reading all of her books...there has ALWAYS been something that each book teaches us. Okay, that sounds really corny, but it's the truth. And we all know it. But this...this ending. What does it teach us? That everything will turn out happily ever after in the end? Yeah, it was pathetic. With SO much death and destruction and craziness that is ever so real in today's world...that ending was just...it seemed like she didn't write it. You know what I mean? It was totally out of the ordinary.
And maybe she did it for shock value considering the majority of the population was predicting his death....but...yeah...(XD I was going to say something brilliant here...but I've forgotten! XD)

I do need to stop focusing the negative...considering I thought the book was BRILLIANT and FANTASTIC. But I guess the end just overshadows all the good.
I do want to say...that part of the reason the book was SO good, was because it was SO different than ALL the others. It was craziness! But I loved it. Getting out of Hogwarts and that usual madness!

I did like the focus on just the trio...and then down to just Hermoine and Harry...but I was disappointed that no other characters got hardly a mention. Snape was probably the only one. You know? Which, he deserved more than one chapter...he deserved the whole book. But that's just me and my love for Snape that is forever lasting.

And I too would like to know what happened to everyone else. I mean, Neville's a prof...but what about Luna?!

But Godric's Hollow was fascinating! I did love seeing all the dates and having a definitive answer on that!

And all the characters were brilliant...save one. coughGinnycough. The writing was superb. As usual.

And Ron coming back to save the day! And Snape's Doe!!!!!!! *bursts into tears*

Gah. I'm never going to get over Snape...just like I can't get over Sirius. BAH!

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Well, I for one am very disappointed in Draco's so called ending. It was not much of an ending if you ask me...Anyway...Are you writting a Harry Potter fanfiction? Does it have Draco Malfoy in it? Are you going to post it on the board, post it somewhere else, or are you just pming it to interested board members? I am very interested in reading your story. May I please read it as well? (makes puppy dog eyes)
I agree with you one hundred percent. From what I have read thus far I liked the book over all, the epilogue was bad though. I am a major fan of the happily ever after, sweet, sappy, cheesy, and even sometimes just flat out corny endings. However I did not like this ending either. I was okay with the series ending happily ever after. I actualy love that. The thing was though that I did not feel like it was the end. There were so many loose ends.
I think that you are right about Victorie being Fleur and Bill's child. I read somewhere that Victorie links back to the French language (though I can not say that I know that for a fact...because sadly I do not speak French ) Plus the age would be about right as well. So I think that it makes perfect sense.
I still like the series too. However I am pretending that the epilogue does not exsist.
I agree with you once again. It just did not seem right that Harry's son's middle name was not Sirius. I also thought that Ron's son's name should have been Fredrick, Fred, Freddy, or something along those lines. Some names made sense but others...were just like out of nowhere. Strange...

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I still don't have a single idea where Hugo came from; maybe one of JK's kids named him. I personally have no idea.

Drew, the story will most likely be going up on mugglenet fanfiction under a joint account between myself and Annabel Lee. The username there is "GeniousesInOrange" and the story will be called "To Be Exact"

If it doesn't go up there, it will go up on my account on fanfiction.net, where my penname is "Jade Apricot"

*sigh* So difficult to find original names for these sites these days...

Glad my Potterhead crack theories make sense to you, Drew. Pleased I am, as Yoda would say.

And what epilogue? I am unaware of what you speak.

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After reading the book, and started to reread it. I have nothing other to say than it was absolutely brilliant.

First off, WHO is Yaxley? I was confused.

Ok, now for the more serious stuff.
I can honestly say I was right in my theories. First the Snape and Lily love thing. Well Snape in love with Lily. (that was my favorite chapter). I was surprised to learn the Snape was in on the whole Harry thing from the very beginning. He was genuily concerned about him and that made my day. He was redeemed in the best way I could think possible.
Second, Harry dying. I knew he was going to die, in a sense. I thought he was going to die permenantly, but still he died. I know you are saying, 'no, no! Dumbledore said he didn't die!' But i think the part of him that was Voldemort's soul died, thus part of Harry died.
Thirdly, Harry being a Horcrux. I was torn. I originally thought that if JK made Harry a Horcrux, then she was off her rocker. But deep down, it made sense. And torward the release of the book, I firmly believed that he was a Horcrux. I am glad JK did that, it was unexpected but entireley perfect.
Now for the things I was wrong about...
Dumbledore was truely dead. I was convinced that he was alive. I dwelled on the fact that he was somehow going to come back and help Harry. (Although I am glad that Snape had the chance to do that with his Patronus--did anyone catch that the doe was Lily's Patronus also?) And...not only that, we discovered that Dumbledore was not who we thought him to be. He was manipulative, and somewhat evil. He desired power and won it (the Eldest Wand). I really do hate him now. He tricked all of us. But I congradulate JK for putting that unexpected turn in there.
Sirius...he didn't come back. I was convinced that he was not dead and he too would rise to Harry's aid. I was somewhat disappointed in the lack of mention. He didn't appear in the book all that much.
Some other stuff I thought about the book:
I thought the introducing of the Deathly Hallows was most intelligent. JK really had it planned out. It was such a good plot, I am amazed that it is actually a work of literature. I was confused of what the Snitch was though, was it the Resurrecting Stone? (It might have been due to my total lack of sleep, but I missed it.)
The whole Snape's Memory thing was the best Chapter EVER. I loved that he and Lily were best friends. We now also know the reason of Petunia's bitterness toward anything magic.
Harry and Ginny were intresting. The kiss on Harry's birthday made me hopeful and excited, but it was short ended when Ron told him off. (I loved how Ron suddenly turned to an expert of girls).
I am very glad that Kreacher was able to help Harry and finally have the respect he deserved. He was really helpful and kind to Harry/Ron/Hermione. I felt bad for him when they couldn't return :[
The search for the Horcruxes made me frustrated along with them: Ron leaving, the fiasco at Godric's Hollow, and the Lovegoods, and the Ministry. I wanted them to have an easy time, but obviously it wasn't. Without Hermione and Ron....and Snape....I don't think Harry would have been able to do it. It really showed how the bond of friendship made all the difference.
Now, the last chapter... Cheesy to the 100th degree. What kind of name is Albus Severus? I thought Albus was a hilarious name, but to name his kid after that, geez Harry come on. Sirius would have been much better.

Yeah. That's just the start of what I thought. I'll add more when I come on and read everything, but that's it for now :]

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Okay, Dumbledore is a lot of things, but he is not evil. Yes he desired power and glory, but the main thing is, after Ariana's death, he stopped desiring them. He made up for it. That was probably why Rowling put in that chapter of King's Cross, to throw away all of the doubts that Harry had about him in the book. Also, I think she wanted to show that Dumbledore was human. He made mistakes too. But he also understood people. He knew Ron would try to walk away. He knew Snape would always love Lily. He knew Harry would try to get the Hallows. He knew Harry would be tempted, just like he was. And who can blame him? Harry was obsessed with the Hallows, they were all he could think about for months. And about him manipulating Harry, he knew that if Harry let Voldy kill him, the part of Voldy's soul in Harry would be destroyed but Harry would still live. Dumbledore is as far away from evil as a person can get. And I quote "No, he was cleverer than you, a better wizard, a better man."

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Come now, surely you're not going to hold the foolishness of youth against the great Albus Dumbledore! He was a young man with dreams who felt held back, and had grown up in a house full of lies and deceit. Then he had guilt. Dumbledore admitted he was wrong to negelect Ariana and felt awful about it, but at that point there wasn't a thing to do but cover it up. Something Aberforth couldn't forgive him for. So while Dumbledore did make mistakes in his foolishness as a young man no older then twenty, probably only eighteen or nineteen, and probably messed into things he ought not, he still became a great wizard. A wizard who needed to cover up his mistakes not so he could attain power, as he learned was his weakness, but to secure the honor of his family until his death, when it eventually came to the light. He also became a wizard who tried endlessly to right his wrongs with the defeat of Grindewald among other things. Albus Dumbledore was no different then anyone, really, meaning that he could make mistakes. But, in the end, I think he made up for them with his key role in the defeat of Voldemort. He did manipulate people to some extent, but then, like so many things, who hasn't? Who's never told a lie? Who's never deceived someone? No one. Albus Dumbledore was no different.

Wow. I really shouldn't rant, should I?

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Thanks for answering my question, but do they talk about him or dose he make a small appearence?

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^Oh, yeah! That makes sense that Victorie is Bill and Fleur's kid. My first thought was that she was somehow linked to Viktor Krum.



Wait...wouldn't he be around 36 years old? I just realized 27 is a little too young to be having 2 kids in Hogwarts.

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