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Post subject:  Posted: July 24th, 2007, 1:03 am |
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Pirates' Destiny wrote: Hmm, I like those two! I've also thought of starting to say "keep a weather eye on the horizon" every time I have to leave or something! lol and there are tons of others that I like to use but none are coming to mind right now... thank you! *takes a bow  * I'm happy you agree! well, I've looked a little for the pencils... no luck yet  But I shall not give up until I have them in my hands!  ... really? That didn't surprise you? Am I really that predictable?  Hey, maybe that's why Beckett was so nasty! I would be too if I was named Cutler!  Yup, I'm very happy too that Elizabeth named little Will after his daddy.  Ah yes, I love "Keep a weather eye on the horizon" now, though it's never occured to me to use it...it's kinda Will and Lizzie's special "phrase" now, you know? 
Aww, I'm sorry. Hope you can find them! No, it didn't surprise me, but only because I have a friend who at one point bought everything Piratey she ran into...literally. Anyway, predictability isn't always bad.
AHA! That's the answer! You're a genius!
Erm, well actually I meant Bootstrap Bill's wife, as in Will II's mother...but that works too. _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: July 24th, 2007, 11:39 am |
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Anie Surion, Yep practice makes perfect. I wonder what his middle name was as well. I have even looked on the internet before in search of what his middle name might be. However it seems that the writters never gave him a middle name or it has yet to be released. (sighs) I really wanted to know what his middle name was. I supose that that shall be soemthing left up to fanfiction authors to come up with though. What do you think his middle name was/should have been?
Taurquende, Well, we are guessing that it shall be released in December (due to the Christmas rush that it could produce and the fact that it would only be like a month or two latter than the time span between Dead Man's chest released from the theaters to dvd). My younger sister head Decmeber fourth as the release date. However I do not know where she heard that from and I personaly have not read anywhere where it gives a dvd released date yet. So I supose that at this point "December fourth" is a rumor.
Ah don't worry about it. As Anie Surion said practice makes perfect. Plus being able to do an Austrlian accent is amazing!
I actualy love some old names, for example I love the names William, James, Elizabeth, Victoria, Marah etc...I just do not like all...or most old names. I get it honest though. My mother named me Destiny Heart...lol.
PD, Okay I just checked my pm box. Thank you so much for sending me that! Oh I agree that the writter's seemed to do their homework when making the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. _________________ Destiny I'm a Christian boycrazy girl. Will Turner's wife ^&?   Avatar by JF, banners by Taurquende, Nurrantiel Mashiara, Silme Meleth TarNymphadora, and JF taught me how to use banners. Thanks to all!
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Post subject: Posted: July 24th, 2007, 3:22 pm |
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Ánië Súrion wrote: Ah yes, I love "Keep a weather eye on the horizon" now, though it's never occured to me to use it...it's kinda Will and Lizzie's special "phrase" now, you know? Aww, I'm sorry. Hope you can find them! No, it didn't surprise me, but only because I have a friend who at one point bought everything Piratey she ran into...literally. Anyway, predictability isn't always bad. AHA! That's the answer! You're a genius! Erm, well actually I meant Bootstrap Bill's wife, as in Will II's mother...but that works too. it is their special little quote now... and even though it is sorta a sad quote I still like using it  Oh, and Barbossa's quotes are always fun too! Wow! I could not imagine buying everything I see that has to do with Pirates!  that would cost so much! and it would be extremely hard! why thank you! Every now and then something ingenious like that will come to me Oops,  oh well, they both work! Drew's Destiny wrote: Anie Surion, Yep practice makes perfect. I wonder what his middle name was as well. I have even looked on the internet before in search of what his middle name might be. However it seems that the writters never gave him a middle name or it has yet to be released. (sighs) I really wanted to know what his middle name was. I supose that that shall be soemthing left up to fanfiction authors to come up with though. What do you think his middle name was/should have been? Taurquende, Well, we are guessing that it shall be released in December (due to the Christmas rush that it could produce and the fact that it would only be like a month or two latter than the time span between Dead Man's chest released from the theaters to dvd). My younger sister head Decmeber third as the released date. However I do not know where she heard that from and I personaly have not read anywhere where it gives a dvd released date yet. So I supose that at this point "December third" is a rumor. Ah don't worry about it. As Anie Surion said practice makes perfect. Plus being able to do an Austrlian accent is amazing! I actualy love some old names, for example I love the names William, James, Elizabeth, Victoria, Marah etc...I just do not like all...or most old names. I get it honest though. My mother named me Destiny Heart...lol. PD, Okay I just checked my pm box. Thank you so much for sending me that! Oh I agree that the writter's seemed to do their homework when making the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. maybe they left his middle name open for the public to make up whatever they want it to be I think Elizabeth might have picked either Jack, James, or Weatherby just because those are the men she was really close too. Can you imagine William Jack Turner the third? lol
December third? Boy, that seems so far away 
Yup, like I already said I enjoy most old names... except I probably would never name my son or daughter William or Elizabeth just because they're pretty common right now... but in a few years who knows.
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Post subject: Posted: July 24th, 2007, 5:04 pm |
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lol i like older names too. i actually love my name. it's all over the place! i know tons of people with the name william. lol. my step brother, my uncle and a few people from church. . .lol
i know this is from a few pages back but i also have Will and jack pencils and a folder!!!!! i told my friend who got them for me that instead of actually using them, i'll spend all the class time just looking 
December does seem a logn ways away!  i can't wait! it didn't seem like AWE stayed in theaters long enough in my opinion. . .
wow i haven't been here in a few days, so i'm kinna behind on all the conversation _________________ "Have i gone mad?"
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Post subject: Posted: July 25th, 2007, 2:00 am |
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^ I agree, it didn't stay in theaters very long at all! But so many movies come out in the summer, they couldn't keep it. I know a lot of Williams too, of all ages. Strangely, only the oldest ones go by Bill.
@ DD Thank you! Austrailian accents are so fun, I wish I lived there just so I could hear the people speak. I really should work on my British accent, but I always feel so cheesy whenever I try it.  And I overdo it so much, I sounds like I'm making fun of the Brits, which of course I'm not!  *hugs to any Brittish here*
December 4th, eh?  Really... if they released it earlier, they probably would still make a lot of money off Christmas. So why make the rest of us wait?
@ PD William James Turner III.... that sounds so noble! Besides, poor Norrie died for Elizabeth, he deserves her child named after him. _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: July 25th, 2007, 1:46 pm |
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Pirates' Destiny wrote: it is their special little quote now... and even though it is sorta a sad quote I still like using it Oh, and Barbossa's quotes are always fun too! Wow! I could not imagine buying everything I see that has to do with Pirates! that would cost so much! and it would be extremely hard! why thank you! Every now and then something ingenious like that will come to me Oops, oh well, they both work! Well, yeah, it's kinda like "I choose a mortal life" for Aragorn and Arwen (another favorite couple of mine)...it's bittersweet. Ah yes, "Hector" is so much fun to imitate and quote. Me neither, but she did. She even bought a fishtank because it came with a Jack figurine! Yep, a brilliant flash of inspiration like that is worth waiting for. Oh, and by the way PD, when I wondered what Will's middle name was I was actually talking about Will II not Will III. But either way... Drew's Destiny wrote: Anie Surion, Yep practice makes perfect. I wonder what his middle name was as well. I have even looked on the internet before in search of what his middle name might be. However it seems that the writters never gave him a middle name or it has yet to be released. (sighs) I really wanted to know what his middle name was. I supose that that shall be soemthing left up to fanfiction authors to come up with though. What do you think his middle name was/should have been?
Hm...I'm not very good with names...for Will II at least. For Will III I agree with PD and Taurquende, William James Turner III is wonderful.
PS: I'm totally naming my son William if I can. _________________
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Post subject: Posted: July 25th, 2007, 4:03 pm |
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Taurquende wrote: ^ I agree, it didn't stay in theaters very long at all! But so many movies come out in the summer, they couldn't keep it. @ PD William James Turner III.... that sounds so noble! Besides, poor Norrie died for Elizabeth, he deserves her child named after him. yeah, I think that's a lot of the reason AWE seems like it's been taken out early... and now all the stores seem to be getting rid of their PotC stuff all together too... didn't they have their DMC stuff for quite a while last year? Yes, Norrie deserved something like that! although at first I said William Jack Turner didn't I? Oh, well. Ánië Súrion wrote: Well, yeah, it's kinda like "I choose a mortal life" for Aragorn and Arwen (another favorite couple of mine)...it's bittersweet. Ah yes, "Hector" is so much fun to imitate and quote. Me neither, but she did. She even bought a fishtank because it came with a Jack figurine! Yep, a brilliant flash of inspiration like that is worth waiting for. Oh, and by the way PD, when I wondered what Will's middle name was I was actually talking about Will II not Will III. But either way... Ooo, that's such a sad Aragorn/Arwen quote! I love it too
lol Did she even have any fish? See I can't see buying THAT much and going that crazy... lol
 Oh, well... both work... I need to pay better attention. But it's just so hard when three people in the Turner family are named Will!!! lol
oh, and thank you!! My brother and I just came back from Wal-Mart and I finally found the At World's End pencils!  yay! I got two packs... one to use and one to keep and did you notice they come with two pencils with only Will on them, one with only Jack and one with both... so Will got the most!! but at first I was getting sad because all I could find was High School Musical, Disney Fairies and Disney Princesses… but then lo and behold there was Will and PotC! ... oh, the folders! I have two Will ones (one AWE one from Claires) and one Jack and Will one. and I have two notebooks with Jack and Will on them
Oh, I also found and got some PotC cereal... don't really like chocolate cereal but it'll be good as a snack.  _________________ Chase a couple hearts, we could leave 'em in shreds
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Post subject: Posted: July 25th, 2007, 7:47 pm |
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Pirates' Destiny wrote: Ooo, that's such a sad Aragorn/Arwen quote! I love it too lol Did she even have any fish? See I can't see buying THAT much and going that crazy... lol Oh, well... both work... I need to pay better attention. But it's just so hard when three people in the Turner family are named Will!!! lol oh, and thank you!! My brother and I just came back from Wal-Mart and I finally found the At World's End pencils! yay! I got two packs... one to use and one to keep and did you notice they come with two pencils with only Will on them, one with only Jack and one with both... so Will got the most!! but at first I was getting sad because all I could find was High School Musical, Disney Fairies and Disney Princesses… but then lo and behold there was Will and PotC! ... oh, the folders! I have two Will ones (one AWE one from Claires) and one Jack and Will one. and I have two notebooks with Jack and Will on them Oh, I also found and got some PotC cereal... don't really like chocolate cereal but it'll be good as a snack. Yup yup, A/A, W/E, and Faramir/Eowyn are like the 3 best couples of all time. And the angstiest too...lol...
Yeah, she has 2 huge tanks, five Bettas, and now a little tank with a goldfish named Kraken residing.
Nah, it's okay, I know just what you mean. That's why I've decided none of my kids will be "Junior" anything...it's too confusing.
Yay! That's great! I did notice that Will's got more, it made me very happy. (Though I gave one of the Will ones to another Orli fan...so now I only have 1...oh well) I want folders...boo. ah well...
Cereal?! I think I've seen that actually...it's kinda stretching it in my mind...
I might be getting the AWE soundtrack tonight! (finally) It's been hiding from me but Fred Meyer just got a bunch of copies in so my mom might take me later! Even if it is $17 I'm totally psyched. _________________
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Post subject: Posted: July 25th, 2007, 10:16 pm |
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Personally, I've always thought Will III should be William James. It just seems fitting, considering how kind Norrington was to Elizabeth. If someone close to me died, I'd probably name my child after them too. _________________ <center> all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us
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Post subject: Posted: July 25th, 2007, 10:38 pm |
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^ i like that....im not to sure how will jr. would think about it but to me it kind of makes sence.....but i do have to say in any case it's a good name.
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Post subject: Posted: July 25th, 2007, 10:50 pm |
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^ all of you guys are right I think we should officially make Will and Elizabeth's son William James Turner all in favor say "aye"!
"Aye!"
Ánië Súrion wrote: Yup yup, A/A, W/E, and Faramir/Eowyn are like the 3 best couples of all time. And the angstiest too...lol... Yeah, she has 2 huge tanks, five Bettas, and now a little tank with a goldfish named Kraken residing. Nah, it's okay, I know just what you mean. That's why I've decided none of my kids will be "Junior" anything...it's too confusing. Yay! That's great! I did notice that Will's got more, it made me very happy. (Though I gave one of the Will ones to another Orli fan...so now I only have 1...oh well) I want folders...boo. ah well... Cereal?! I think I've seen that actually...it's kinda stretching it in my mind... I might be getting the AWE soundtrack tonight! (finally) It's been hiding from me but Fred Meyer just got a bunch of copies in so my mom might take me later! Even if it is $17 I'm totally psyched. all three do make cute couples
Ok, well at least she has fish! It's not like buying a fishtank just to have it and not even having any fish to put in it! lol oh, and I like the name she chose for one of her fish! lol Kraken!
I'm happy you understand... Jrs can get quite confusing sometimes... 
that was nice of you to give one of the Will ones away I was actually surprised Will got more... but, hey, I'm not complaining! No way! and if you want a folder or anything now is the time to get them... our Wal-Mart (and all our big stores) have that kind of stuff everywhere!
I admit the cereal is stretching it a little but I thought it would be cool... and since I wanted a snack cereal anyway I thought I'd give it a shot and see what it's all about. And then I get the box when all the cereal is gone
yay! I'm so happy for you! Hope you enjoy your soundtrack (tracks 3, 11 and 5 are the best!)! I know I love mine and I have the whole thing memorized! (of course I've had a while to memorize it since I got it the day it came out ) anyway, have fun getting it! _________________ Chase a couple hearts, we could leave 'em in shreds
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Post subject: Posted: July 26th, 2007, 2:12 am |
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Pirates' Destiny wrote: ^ all of you guys are right I think we should officially make Will and Elizabeth's son William James Turner all in favor say "aye"! "Aye!" all three do make cute couples Ok, well at least she has fish! It's not like buying a fishtank just to have it and not even having any fish to put in it! lol oh, and I like the name she chose for one of her fish! lol Kraken! I'm happy you understand... Jrs can get quite confusing sometimes... that was nice of you to give one of the Will ones away I was actually surprised Will got more... but, hey, I'm not complaining! No way! and if you want a folder or anything now is the time to get them... our Wal-Mart (and all our big stores) have that kind of stuff everywhere! I admit the cereal is stretching it a little but I thought it would be cool... and since I wanted a snack cereal anyway I thought I'd give it a shot and see what it's all about. And then I get the box when all the cereal is gone yay! I'm so happy for you! Hope you enjoy your soundtrack (tracks 3, 11 and 5 are the best!)! I know I love mine and I have the whole thing memorized! (of course I've had a while to memorize it since I got it the day it came out ) anyway, have fun getting it! "Aye aye aye!" There, in case someone doesn't vote.
Yep.
No, she's kind of a...fish addict, that's the only way I can think to describe it. And she named the fish Kraken because it kept swimming around the Jack figurine, I think...lol
Yeah, she's a big fan of Leggy and Will (believe me, I sat through the EEs with her yesterday ) and she was quite happy to get that pencil. No, no, never complain when dear William gets more pictures than Captain Sparrow! Ooh, thanks, I'll have to go beg Mom...
Enjoy the cereal. Who's on the box? (Jack, Will, or everybody?)
Thanks! Actually Mom got home kinda late so we're gonna have to go tomorrow, but at least I'm gonna finally get it. Does the memorization go for all 3 soundtracks or just AWE? Either way, huzzah for you! _________________
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Post subject: Posted: July 26th, 2007, 10:48 am |
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That's cute! Good name choice if the fish kept swimming around the Jack figure!
No, I've learned that too! Whenever Will gets something over Jack you never complain  the folders aren't more then like 90 cents... I don't even think they're that. And I was actually thinking of going and getting more before school starts this fall... just in case I might need more
well, Jack is on the box. It's not the best but, hey, it's still PotC cereal. And since I wanted it anyway for a snack I'm definitely not going to just throw it away when I'm done!
I have almost all of the tracks for all three movies memorized... the most fun part is saying the lines from the movie with the music (just as it happens in the movie)! (as I've already told you a little about ) _________________ Chase a couple hearts, we could leave 'em in shreds
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Post subject: Posted: July 26th, 2007, 3:18 pm |
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Pirates' Destiny wrote: That's cute! Good name choice if the fish kept swimming around the Jack figure! No, I've learned that too! Whenever Will gets something over Jack you never complain the folders aren't more then like 90 cents... I don't even think they're that. And I was actually thinking of going and getting more before school starts this fall... just in case I might need more well, Jack is on the box. It's not the best but, hey, it's still PotC cereal. And since I wanted it anyway for a snack I'm definitely not going to just throw it away when I'm done! I have almost all of the tracks for all three movies memorized... the most fun part is saying the lines from the movie with the music (just as it happens in the movie)! (as I've already told you a little about ) Yep, he (Kraken) looks nothing like the real Kraken (he's white and red) but it's funny anyway.
Jack gets all the attention - it's about time Will got some too! Ooh, 90 cents?! I'll have to check when I go to get the AWE soundtrack later...what are the pics on them, out of curiosity?
Yeah, you never know, that box might be really valuable to a POTC collector in 2137 or something...
Wow. Good job. Yeah, I bet that is fun...maybe I'll try it... _________________
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Post subject: Posted: July 26th, 2007, 6:22 pm |
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Ánië Súrion wrote: Yep, he (Kraken) looks nothing like the real Kraken (he's white and red) but it's funny anyway. Jack gets all the attention - it's about time Will got some too! Ooh, 90 cents?! I'll have to check when I go to get the AWE soundtrack later...what are the pics on them, out of curiosity? Yeah, you never know, that box might be really valuable to a POTC collector in 2137 or something... Wow. Good job. Yeah, I bet that is fun...maybe I'll try it... Well, Will gets second most attention... I really wish they'd make more stuff with Norrie and Barbossa on it actually...
My mom and I went to Wal-Mart today to get some school supplies so I got some of them They're actually about 80 cents they have the CotBP publicity photos (both of them) for Will and Jack but some of them say At World's End on the inside so they're new for this year. But I did see they had a little notebook that had pics of Jack and Will on it from AWE... anyway, I got the two Will ones they had and one Jack one (since they didn't have any other Will ones other then older folders from last year) and I got their last Will/Jack notebook that's from last year. So with those and the ones I have and some other non-Pirates notebooks and folders I got I think I'm all ready!
well, it might be valuable someday... but right now the only reason I'm keeping it is because I like PotC and it has PotC on it.
Thank you! You should really try it! I know I've been doing it for... well, I don't know how long but once you get the hang of it it makes listening to the soundtracks almost as good as watching the movies! (and then you also get to practice on all the accents so really you get to act the movies out! Which I think is a lot of fun ) _________________ Chase a couple hearts, we could leave 'em in shreds
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Post subject: Posted: July 26th, 2007, 8:25 pm |
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Pirates' Destiny wrote: Well, Will gets second most attention... I really wish they'd make more stuff with Norrie and Barbossa on it actually... My mom and I went to Wal-Mart today to get some school supplies so I got some of them They're actually about 80 cents they have the CotBP publicity photos (both of them) for Will and Jack but some of them say At World's End on the inside so they're new for this year. But I did see they had a little notebook that had pics of Jack and Will on it from AWE... anyway, I got the two Will ones they had and one Jack one (since they didn't have any other Will ones other then older folders from last year) and I got their last Will/Jack notebook that's from last year. So with those and the ones I have and some other non-Pirates notebooks and folders I got I think I'm all ready! well, it might be valuable someday... but right now the only reason I'm keeping it is because I like PotC and it has PotC on it. Thank you! You should really try it! I know I've been doing it for... well, I don't know how long but once you get the hang of it it makes listening to the soundtracks almost as good as watching the movies! (and then you also get to practice on all the accents so really you get to act the movies out! Which I think is a lot of fun ) Ah, good point. (I do like Norrington actually, I think he's my second-favorite guy...he's not bad.) My (female) friend wants more Elizabeth stuff too because she's her favorite character.
Awesome! Someone'll probably come up to you and say "Obsessed much?" in which case you reply "And proud of it!"
That's logical too.
Oh, yeah, that sounds like so much fun!!! Acting the movies out to the soundtracks, I mean. Hm...I have friends who love acting... _________________
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