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...They have to bring her back, don't they?

Honestly, I'd prefer it if Doctor went to a trailer park and picked up some toothless hillbillies.

Rose... sets me off. She's just too dense.

I'm not sure about Donna. But I'm setting my expectations low, so I bet I'll end up liking her.

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Wait..what Martha is obsessive??
And Rose wasn't? Uh.....wow

*high fives Shadowcat*
Rose is far too chavvy for me. Same with Donna. I'm not sure how I'm going to be able to tolerate that gobby cow.

Poor Martha
Ah well..she gets to hang out with Captain Jack and the others at Torchwood HQ. Should be very interesting that.

That being said....I think having 3 female companions around at the same time is going to be very very very much worth watching. Just for the Doctors reaction alone

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Well, my issue with Martha is more along the lines that she gives off this aura that she's better than other people. That's just the vibe I get from her. And I think that's because she's a medical student. I don't know how it is in Europe, but generally here in the States, going to medical school implies that you are extremely smart and very rich. Well, you at least have gobs of money that allows you to stay through medical school which takes YEARS. I always just got this vibe that she thought she was better because she was a medical student.

Which is why like Rose so much. She's so much more attainable, approachable. Does that make sense? Her "dense"-ness that ya'll keep referring to I think is why I like her so much. She's everyday and naive. Why I guess I like her is that it's far more possible to see myself in her position than in Martha's. Rose didn't go to medical school, she dropped out of university...so yeah, obviously she might not be a genius. But just because she doesn't know everything shouldn't make her unlikeable. She at least TRIES, and what she doesn't know, she makes up for with her heart. She's genuine.
Does that make ANY sense? Ha ha ha ha. I like Martha, don't think that I don't. I just prefer Donna and Rose over her. I think the fact that, once Jack showed up at the end of the series as well as the Master, I basically FORGOT she was even there kind of sums up how I feel about her. XD It wasn't intentional, it was just, "OH my god. It's Jack AND the Master AND the Doctor."

About the "obsessiveness." I think Rose was yes, "obsessive," but in a different way. In my opinion, she didn't express it the way Martha did. Martha was more possessive of the Doctor. She was upset that the thought of Rose was ALWAYS with the Doctor. And THAT annoyed me. She seemed unable to accept that there were other companions. Other companions that have HUGE impacts on the Doctor.
In my opinion, Rose wasn't as vocal and expressive about that. When Rose found out about Sarah Jane, she was obviously surprised that there were other companions, but I think she was more scared that the Doctor was going to just leave her somewhere and never come back for her. And then there was Madame Pompadore...who, Rose was MORE noticeably jealous of. But she never said anything, and she came to terms with it just fine.
It took Martha finding out what REALLY happened to Rose to I think come to understand why Rose means so much to the Doctor. I think, after that point she took her "obsessiveness" down a notch. XD And her meeting Jack was kind of like Rose meeting Sarah Jane. She and Jack, both, I think thought that they were both going to be left behind.
Martha was ALWAYS complaining about Rose. As far as I remember, Rose didn't. I mean, the Doctor isn't that adept in being discreet, if you know what I mean. XD If you want to talk about dense-ness and thickheadedness, the Doctor is on top. Well, when it comes to Rose. But hey, not his fault either.

Am I making ANY sense on this? I seem to be writing a bleeding novel. Ha ha ha ha.

And then there's DONNA. I've always liked her. I mean, she's a bit daft and rude, yes....but I can't really explain it. She, unlike her counterpart companions, had the guts to actually slap the Doctor. I think she has the will to control the Doctor, reign him in a bit. I think I like that about her because Rose did that a bit too. I'm not saying I like Donna because she might be like Rose, because she isn't and that's not what I'm saying. XD But Donna is different and I like different.
I'm just really interested in finding out HOW the Doctor meets her again. And WHY, after refusing him, she decides to join him. That's gonna be interesting.

And Oh-Wise-Phoenix, you're ABSOLUTELY right. The reaction of the Doctor is going to be worth watching alone. Because, like I said earlier, he doesn't exactly have the best reputation for...explaining himself. Ha ha ha ha.

And if ya'll don't like Donna, just think way back when when there was so much apprehension about Martha. But, I'm okay with being the sole Donna lover. XD

(EDIT: Wow...a freaking novel an only FOUR smileys! XD XD XD Something's wrong with me. )

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Med students here to my knowledge are not rich. Not at all, though not being one or even knowing one personally I don't have enough experience to say that with 100% accuracy. But I'm pretty sure lots of the less priviledged ones have to get jobs to support there University grants.
But that's neither here nor there lol.

I should say I do like Rose. I do, but sometimes she just got on my wick. The way she treated Mickie for example. Sure Mickie wasn't probably the best boyfriend anyone could have. But he did love Rose and she treated him as nothing more than an afterthought at times.

The thing is...about the final episode. It was all about Martha. Without her, the world may not have been saved. I'm not saying Rose couldn't have achieved it. But she wasn't in that position. The Doctor trusted Martha to do what he asked her to do, knowing full well she would achieve it no matter what. I can understand how she reacted in regards to Rose.
Put it this way...you meet a new guy. You get on really well, he's flirty and handsome, kind and smart. You become very attracted to him, but there's one problem. He won't stop talking about his ex and all the things they did together and how great and special she was. Wouldn't you as a human being get at least a little annoyed by that?
The Doctor was incredibly insenstive to Martha at times. Not Rose's fault by any means. That's just men for you

I think Rose was more than just surprised about Sarah-Jane. She was downright b.itchy towards her, and SJ to her. So it did work both ways in that respect. Which is going to make the final 3 episodes of the new series all the more interesting. So many different dynamics.
But I'm wandering off my current point lolol
Rose was very , very jealous of Madame Pompadour. Sometimes you don't have to be vocal, it's all in the body language and in the eyes.
She seems to think the Doctor is hers and hers alone.

I think we can all agree on the Doctors obliviousness to so many different things around him.

My issue with Donna is probably due to the Catherine Tate Show. Incredibly unfair on my part. But she just seemed to play a character from her show, rather than someone else. Though, she did grow on me towards the end of the episode and who knows. Maybe she'll really grow on me by the next series. I was a bit too harsh and judgemental and that was wrong. I do agree about the part about her reigning him in. She's definetly going to make for an interesting companion that's for sure.

LOL yeah like I was saying it's his obliviousness combined with his genius but scatty brain. His mind is always going a million miles a hour. Never slowing down for a second.

This news has really made for an interesting discussion.

Only 4 smilies?? Are you ill MB?

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I think that med student's parents are probably rich. But not the med students themselves. And by the time they're done with med school, there's no way that they'll be rich anymore.

Yeah, Rose was rather mean to Mickey. But Mickey gets on my nerves too, probably because he's exactly like Rose, only in Mickey-form. So I guess in that sense, they're perfecter together than Doctor and Rose, because they're both dense and think alike (densely) instead of one being brilliant and the other one being... dense.

Oh, and when Rose came along, Doctor wasn't always referring to his past companions. He pretty much never referred to them, much less compare her to them. So Martha got it a bit harder than Rose. It's like when you do something that you're proud of, like... draw a picture. And then your friend points at it ands says "That's good. But my cousin can draw better than you." It's awkward. (Yes, that happens to me all the time )

Actually, this morning I decided I liked Donna. Maybe it's because I was so distraught over Rose coming back that Donna coming back didn't seem so bad afterall. One of those relativity things. Maybe I just didn't like her in the Christmas special because the whole episode was weak. The spider lady thing was pathetic... and distracting. Well... Donna's wedding dress was unflattering, and that was distracting too.

And it's not that I abhorr Rose. I thought she was fine with Ninth Doctor. Something about 9 and Rose just seemed better than 10 and Rose. I think Rose started getting possessive over the Doctor as soon as he regenerated. Something about that made her all... "Mine!"-ish.

Three people all after the Doctor. That's going to be interesting. Hold on, let me edit it - Four people all after the Doctor. (Let's not leave Jack out of this )

I've really got to get the BBCA. There's no way that I'm going to be able to wait until the summer for SciFi to air it.

Oh. We know there's something wrong; I have officially used more smilies in my post than Montana.

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Exactly. I'm not saying it was Martha's fault that she was so freakin' jealous when the Doctor would just go off about Rose. And neither is it Rose's.
I think we can all agree that the Doctor is VERY much at fault in this. XD Men are SOOO insensitive. Bah. Of ANY species. XD
But then, I think I can safely argue that when someone had such an obvious impact on your life, and then snatched away from you; that's gonna have a profound effect on how you live the rest of your life. And so, I'm destroying my first argument in saying that the Doctor isn't fully responsible...in that respect.
But what REALLY bothered me about Martha was the fact that she got SOOO pissed off with the Doctor in the Human Nature/Family of Blood episodes. The fact that she got jealous with a man who's HUMAN and has no real recollection of Rose. Dreams and stories, yes. But to get SO worked up over that is a rather inappropriate.
I like Martha, just not her attitude...toward things.

"It's like when you fancy someone and they don't even know you exist." Or whatever that line is. Rather ironic that the Doctor says it. XD

I absolutely loved the dynamic between Rose and Sarah Jane. For some reason, that didn't bother me. XD And I think by the end of it, they were both able to accept the idea of other companions. Once the shock wore off. XD The case with Madame Pompadour....I meant to say something about her body language. I think she was more stunned at the fact that this man she'd been traveling with for the better part of a year, meets a random woman and in mere hours falls head over heels for her. Now that, for me, would be incredibly rude of a guy to do that. Of course I'd be ridiculously pissed off. Men. PSSSHHH! Now we're back to the argument that the Doctor is incredibly THICK.
But there again, after that incident, Rose seemed to be able to just move on.
With Martha, it took finding out what ACTUALLY happened to Rose for her to REALIZE that he's still so worked up over Rose for a good reason. Only AFTER that, was she able to just relax on the "being jealous" thing. After that, she was much more tolerable. XD

SO, in my opinion Rose was much more tolerable when it came to the Doctor being completely daft. XD I'm not saying she was perfect. By all means, she wasn't when it came to other women in the Doctor's life. I just got the vibes from Martha that she thought she was amazing and deserved to be treated better. That was basically the element that put me off.

And then there's Jack. As Shadowcat said, we canNOT forget Jack. He actually seemed to be the companion to take it the best. Being second to Rose that is. Of course, that might have something to do with the fact that he cared so much about her. And it's funny that neither Rose nor Martha really bothered to care about Jack as ... competition. XD Poor Jack.

This...conglomeration of companions is gonna be AWESOME. XD I actually wouldn't mind seeing Ms Sarah Jane show up again. That'd just be hsyterical. The Doctor would probably have two heart attacks or something. XD And then numero 5 would wander into the TARDIS and everything would go NUTS.

Oh-Wise-Phoenix, I hope you open up to the idea of Donna. Let the show of Catherine Tate not ever enter your mind when you watch the new series. Wow, that sounded a bit Yoda-ish. Embrace Donna. Embrace the fact that Donna is the only one that has EVER been able to tell the Doctor to shut up. AND slap him. Muchos brownie points for kickin' ass and takin' names.

This news has most DEFINATELY made for some interesting discussion. I love it, it's fascinating. I love Rose, Donna AND Martha. Just in different ways. Although, I'm still trying to find out why Martha is okay. HOW this is all going to pan out now the reason I'm so excited for the new series. I mean, Martha has met Jack, and Rose met Sarah Jane....so those two have some sort of experience in previous-companion-meeting. But then Martha meeting HER rival, and Rose meeting all thse new people...and Donna meeting them all for the first time. I actually think Donna will handle it the best. Why? I've no idea.

And you know what? I've just realized that all three women turned down the Doctor. XD Well, Rose did, but then he came back trying to convince her. Which, now that I think about it...the Doctor actually COMING BACK for Rose, to try and keep on convincing her to travel with him is quite impressive. Hmmmm.... Oh yeah. And Martha actually left him. And Donna flat out said no.

Okay....random tangent. Sorry.

But let's ALL agree to the fact that the Doctor is completely DAFT, THICK-HEADED and OBLIVIOUS when it comes to women.

(Yeaaaaaaaaah....4 smilies is scary. Maybe I make up for it in this massivley enormous post.....)

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Haha, this is very funny. xD Every post we make is a big huge rant/tangent thing, with multiple paragraphs...and tons of smilies. It's quite funny. I like this.

Doctor is insensitive. To the extreme. And he's all mad at the Master for being a psychopath, but the thing is, he's just as bad in his own kind of way. xD Well... maybe not as bad. But being insensitive and rude must be a Time Lord thing.

Hmm, Human Nature was kind of a weak episode. I -admittedly- freaked out over it when I saw it, but now, on reflection, it was one of my least favorite episodes. Down there with 42 and the Dalek episodes. Anyway... Martha was a bit odd in that, yeah. I suppose that could have been partly due to the fact that she was stuck as a maid; that can't be good for anybody's morale. xD But didn't Doctor dream about Martha too? It wasn't just Rose, was it? I thought I remembered hearing him say something to Martha about him dreaming about her. So flipping out was a bit dramatic. Martha does have a -bit- of an attitude problem -- I'm curious as to how she's going to do with Torchwood. Personally, I think that just seems like a bad idea.

"It's like when you fancy someone and they don't even know that you exist" (or whatever it was...) That was nicely ironic. Seems like Martha should have been the one to say it, one of her subtle (or not so subtle) attempts at getting Doctor's attention.

The Rose and Sarah Jane thing didn't bother me. Probably because when I watched that episode, I had never seen Doctor Who before, and I didn't really get it. I was confused.

And Jack. Jack is... Jack. And I don't know if he really does mind being second to Rose. It's not like he doesn't have other boyfriends.

The more I think about it, the more I like Donna. She's probably not going to care that Doctor likes Rose best. She doesn't really seem like that type. Which may be why you think that she'll handle the conglomeration of companions best. Wow... Conglomeration of Companions. I like that.

Montana, you're going to have to put extra smilies in all of your posts now. You've devastated your smilie-use ratings!

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I go to bed and come back to zillions of paragraphs and a smilie-fest
I'll probably need to come back to this later when I've woke up a bit better XD

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Wow. I've missed a lot.

Hold the phone. By what I'm understanding, Rose is coming back. Am I just crazy? Because three women after the Doctor will be fun, and that's without Jack.

Personally, I like Donna the best, even though she's only been in one episode. She's very raw and blatant compared to the other companions, more likely to show her true feelings and tell the Doctor where to shove off. Of course, since I've only seen one episode with her in it, I can't be certain that I like her. It may happen that she'll get on my nerves. But as it stands, Donna is pretty cool.

Second in line is Rose. I have to say that she's an ordinary jane, like if someone put on a blindfold, and then pointed into a crowd of people to pick out the Doctor's next companion.I like her better than Martha because Rose, like other people have said, doesn't seem so clingy. Its as if Martha denies that anyone could have had the same inpact on the Doctor that she had. And, Rose made ammends with Sarah Jane eventually, ("Does he still stroke parts of the TARDIS?" ) But for some reason, I can't see Martha being anything but cold towards Rose. That, and I swear there's a picture of Martha in my sacraments book for school. Its pretty creepy.

Now Jack...haha. If I were the Doctor, that's who I'd go for. Seriously, i mean it. He would make the best companion ever! I cannot wait for the new season. Yay!

Yeah, I agree, Jack seems the better companion. He seems really sympathetic to Martha when the Doctor said "Oh it's like when you fancy someone and they don't know you exist." He doesn't seem to mind that the Doctor doesn't love the way he loves him, just as long as he can be with him, like some of the other companions in the past Doctors. He also doesn't mind being prejudiced against..too much. Though probably we don't see him react to other people like Rose or Martha does is because the Doctor didn't meet any guys that had romantic interests in him.

Also, this is something that I noticed between Rose and Martha. Though it might extremely flawed like some of the things I think of but I think Rose and Martha had different reasons to travel with the Doctor. Rose, primarily, wanted to get away from the normal everyday routine in life. Like wake up, catch the bus to work, eat chips, go to sleep, repeat. And to that, I can really sympathise because I get tired of the normal everyday thing I have to do. Martha, on the other hand, just saw it like a vacation with your dream guy. Which was why she was rather pouty when she thought the Doctor was leaving her. Rose, on the other hand, was worried that she had to continue her daily routine. Of course, I think Martha would have acted differently if she met the Ninth Doctor like Rose did first. Once again, it's rather flawed and feel free to criticize it.

And yes, I would also like to bring up the Monty's point with Rose/Reinette and Martha/Joan. Rose didn't seem too fazed by the fact that the Doctor was with Madame de Pompadour and dancing with her and partying. She may have been jealous about it but she didn't show it nor did she react to Mickey's insults. The only reason why she shouted at him that time was because she was within inches of getting her head cut up by the Clockwork Droids. Then came Martha. Martha really showed her jealousy in Smith and Jones and The Shakespeare Code. (Though that latter time was the Doctor's fault...) She even had that flash of jealousy when the Doctor mentioned Rose when he was a human. Like I think, she wanted the Doctor to dream just about her..being her most recent companion and all that. And she was extremely jealous with John and Joan, even though she knew that the Doctor was going to come back in three months or however long it was. Rose, on the other hand, didn't know if the Doctor would ever come back with Madame de Pompadour yet she didn't rant off or got all pissy with Mickey.

Believe me, I liked Martha. Martha is in the same place as Donna and that's bit high actually. But it's just her attitude towards Rose kind of put me off. Yeah...by far, though, Jack is my favourite!

(Wow, we're rather fond of novels. I'm sorry mine doesn't have smileys)

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Novel writing 101 in this club! XD Gotta love it.

@Nauriel: HURRAY!! Someone agrees with me that Donna ROCKS! XD *high fives*

Anyway, thought I'd just drop in to let you know there's a trailer for the Christmas special. And some news about it. *evil smile* EXCITED is a very underrated word for me concerning this. XD Although, this might have something to do with Doctor Who withdrawls.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/cult/news/drwho/2007/12/04/51236.shtml
Some interesting news about it. These guys really know how to please us. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Trailer is posted on the official site. But, I looked around on YouTube, just in case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSX64mWRW58

So, trailer = AWESOME. I love the song...ha ha ha ha ha. Looks really good! SOOO excited.

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Nice trailer...but that's not all Doctor Who, is it? Some of the shots didn't look very Doctor Whoish, because the colour was off.

I looked on the home page, and it seems that the christmas special is tonight! Is that right, or am I dreaming?

So, as far as I'm aware, the Crimbo special airs Christmas Day in the UK. .... Heeey, that kind of ryhmned. XD



Us Yanks will have to wait...until someone uploads it on the internet. Or until BBCA or SciFi airs it. Which, who knows.

As for the trailer, the YouTube link I uploaded is the EXACT one from the BBC site.
When I first saw it, I saw the BBC one....and kind of, thought the same as you. There was a particular shot that gave me shivers. I don't want to say what I saw because I'm hoping ... sort-of-not-really- ... that it was a hallucination. XD

The trailer is on the Official page if you want to compare for yourself.

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I don't want to wait for SciFi channel to air it. *pouts* I want Voyage of the Censored NOW.

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Villaged of the damned! ....darned. I want it too! Its torture to make us wait.

I bet this is revenge for throwing their tea into the Harbour.

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Probably. xD Well, the whole tea thing was their fault, so they shouldn't be punishing us... they already did that.

Oh, and I'm loving how when we type 'Voyage of the Damned' it comes up with a *beep*. Which is why I'm calling it Voyage of the Censored.

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