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 Post subject: Khuzdul, the dwarven language
PostPosted: October 26th, 2007, 4:30 pm 
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I have not seen any topic in this section about it, so I thought I´d make one.

There is relatively little known about Khuzdul.
It was a language created by Aule(just put two points on the e), ment to be used by the dwarfs.

I found relatively little about Khuzdul on the internet but here are the few sites that get it properly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khuzdul
http://www.uib.no/people/hnohf/khuzdul.htm ( I used this one very much for words and information about Khuzdul)

Some songs in Khuzdul with english translation provided.
http://download.wbr.com/lotr3/fotr_anno ... core_2.pdf (just cntr F Khuzdul)


And here comes a personal compilation of Khuzdul by me, becouse I thought I´d post it here for the people who would be interested.

Khuzdûl

Dwarven(Khuzdul) words :
Lu = No
Urus = fire
Ku = who
Aznân = dark(ness)
Kheled = glass
Khuzdul = dwergs
Khuzd = dwarf , plural : Khazâd = dwarves/n
Kibil = Silver
Aglâb = tong
Iglishmêk = gesture-code(used by dwarves)
Ruhks = Orc / plural : Rhukâs = Orcs
Zirak = spike
Mênu = you
Aya = upon( ai-mênu = upon you)
Nargun = Black land(note, also used for Mordor)
Tharkûn = grey(staff)-man(note, is also used as dwarven name for Gandalf)
Baraz = red, ruddy(red one?, used in the name ´Barazinbar´)
Sigin = long
Mazarb = record(s?)
Dush = Dark, black
Bark = axe plural = burak
Bizar = dale, valley
Azan = shadows(plural)
Bund = head
Shatur = clouds
Duban = valley
Dûm = excavation, halls, mansions
Gabil = great
Gabilgathol = great fortress(note gabil = great, gathol = fortress
Gundu = underground hall
Gunud = excavate, delve undergound, tunnel
Inbar = horn(part of the name ´Barazinbar´)
Khazad-dum = dwarrowdelf ( also used as name ´Moria´)
-nâd, Nâla = path, course, rivercourse or bed
Narag-zâram = Black Pool?
salôn, sulûn = fall, descend swiftly
Sigin-tarâg, = the Longbeards(plural)
Tarâg = beards
Ûl = streams
Uzbad = lord
Uzn, Aznân = dimness, shadow, darkness ( former spoken as uzu)
Zarâm = lake, pool(used in names ´Narag-Zarâm and Kheled- Zarâm)
Zigil = Spike, or silver


True Dwarven (Khazdâl) names :
Azaghâl = warrior?
Gamil Zirak ?
Tharkûn = Gandalf(note, this is a dwarven name for a human, also meaning Staff-man)
Mahal = name of Aulë

Petty-Dwarven(Khazdâl) names :
Mîm (name of father of Khîm and Ibun)
Khîm (name of one of Mîms sons)
Ibun (name of one of Mîms sons)

Dwarven Names for places/areas:
Khazad-dûm = Moria and mountains above
Barazinbar = The Redhorn
Zirakzigil = Silvertine
Bundushathûr = Cloudyhead(note bund = head, shatûr = clouds, u = in/of)
Sharbhund = Amon Rûdh, Bald hill(petty dwarven name)
Kheled-zâram = Glass-Lake ( near Moria(Khazad-Dûm))
Kibil-nâla = river/source of water near/ on Moria ?
Tumunzahar = name of Nogrod(meaning hollowbold)
Gabilgathol = Belegost
Nargun = Mordor(note, also means black land)
Azanulbizar = Dimrill Dale (valley of the dim, Duban- meaning valley, was left out)
Buzundush = Morthond, Blackroot
Gabilân = name of river Sirion
Kibil-nâla = Silverlode, the river Celebrant(also called Zigilnâd)
Note about speech:
When using â, ê, î, ô and û it is ment as a long vowel.
Narukâthan = Nargothrond

Dwarven(Khuzdûl) sentences and multiple words
Khazâd ai-mênu! = The dwarves are upon you!(also used as dwarven battle-cry)
Uzbad Khazad-dûmu = The lord of Moria



If there is a qeustion mark the translation is not there or not proper.
If you see something that is wrong or have information that is not posted here, please tell.
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PostPosted: October 27th, 2007, 5:21 pm 
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Yes, it is very interesting.
Super uber awesomy cool.


I only wished Tolkien had made more of it.

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PostPosted: October 28th, 2007, 1:08 am 
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Well, you have to distinguish between Tolkienian Khuzdul and movie Khuzdul — there simply wasn't enough known about Dwarvish to translate long passages for song lyrics as was asked for in the movies, so David Salo constructed some pseudo-Khuzdul with both construction based on already existing Tolkienian roots, and some inventions. You can read an analysis of movie-Khuzdul by Elhath here. Though most of what you posted in this thread is Tolkien's Khuzdul. :)

(And by the way, "Forn" is a name in a northern Mannish language, possibly that of Dale (or akin to it), that the Dwarves used for their own 'outer' names like Balin, Fundin, etc. which weren't actually Dwarvish.)

However, some bits of new information and vocabulary for Khuzdul were published in the latest issue (#17) of the Tolkienian linguistics journal Parma Eldalamberon. I bought a copy, and it arrived, though I have not yet been able to read it as my parents confiscated it. When I have read it, I'll post whatever I find about Khuzdul (if it's not too long to violate copyright) here in this thread.

That said, some of what I know already: in PE17, Tolkien translated Tharkûn as "Grey-man" rather than "Staff-man" as in Unfinished Tales. Additionally, the Kh. name for the river Narog (a name Khuzdul in origin that was adapted into Sindarin phonology?) is Naruka or Narâk; the Kh. translation for Nargothrond (instead of Nulukhizidûn > Nulukkhizdîn) is Narukâthan.

Additionally, apparently "axe" is _bark_, pl. _baruk_ rather than _burk_, pl. _barâk_, construct pl. _baruk_ as theorized on Ardalambion. Though _Khuzd_ is the singular of _Khazâd_.


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PostPosted: October 29th, 2007, 8:58 am 
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Yay, somebody who knows much about Khuzdul!!!
Well I currently just ahve bout 10 min on pc and have also other things to do, so I´l edit a little, more will be edited later today.
THENKS VERY MUCH!!!:D

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